debbie, you forgot to mention this one which was buried in the article: https://www.freepress.net/press-release/2010/9/23/activists-tell-fcc-don%E2%80%99t-waffle-net-neutrality

I think net-neutrality is a lost cause with an anti-net-neutrality board. Last thing I have time for is protesting asshats! but guess I'll have to

Jan V

On 02/26/2017 12:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Well OK, Debbie Downer, you might have a point.

And probably FCC politics are not so much Republican vs Democrat, but rather which lobbyists bring the best cupcakes.

https://www.attpublicpolicy.com/fcc/cupcakegate/

*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:55 PM
*To:* Cambium Networks User Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] Huffington Post Article on Rural Connectivity

I'm not convinced that we should not be worried about the next 4 years. Early signs from the chairman are somewhat scary. Gigabit Empowerment, rural parity with urban consumers, broadband everywhere have all been mentioned. The recent vote on weighting for CAF-II reverse auction voted to weight 100Mb/Gigabit far higher than 25/3. Not at all a good sign.

Our republican chairman is sounding a whole lot like a big spending, big telco democrat ready to throw money at broadband.

Mark Radabaugh

Amplex

22690 Pemberville Rd

Luckey, OH 43447

419-261-5996


On Feb 26, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I can see an argument to be made that basic Internet connectivity
    is essentially mandated for some portion of the population by
    schools, government, employers, etc.

    I have customers whose kids can’t do their schoolwork without
    Internet.  Last week Ameren’s new smartmeters knocked a 900 MHz
    customer offline and her daughter had to do a Skype interview as
    part of college application, ended up burning through their
    cellular data plan but got it to work.  Government wants to make
    it difficult to apply for things  like Social Security, Medicare,
    or health insurance by phone or in person, they want you to do it
    online.  I think that’s something they should be required to
    review, are they excluding low income people or seniors or people
    in rural areas by mandating interaction via Internet.  Same with
    employers, have you tried to find or apply for a job lately
    without an Internet connection?

    Internet is replacing phones as a required method of
    communication.  But also let’s be honest, most of these things can
    be (and are) done on smartphones.  Although editing a resume or
    filling out a government form may be a lot easier on an actual
    computer.

    The word “broadband” is problematic in this context. Government
    regulators, tech media, telecom companies, etc. want a first-world
definition of what kind of Internet is a “basic human need”. Flying coach isn’t good enough, everyone needs access to first
    class. Driving a used Toyota may be totally adequate to get you to
    work and the store and take the kids to school, but if some people
    have Teslas and Ferraris, then everyone must have them.

    It’s amazing how fast 25M/4M went from an aspirational and
    futuristic definition of “advanced broadband” to the minimum
    acceptable level, soon to be replaced with 100M or gigabit.  And
    yes, 25M is an appropriate definition of “broadband” if the
    objective is to cancel your satellite or cable TV and watch HD
    video on 3-4 screens simultaneously, as well as download 50 GB
    games to your Xbox in minutes not hours or days.  But 4M/1M will
    suffice for all those other basic non-entertainment human needs.

    The word “broadband” has no real meaning for most people. Maybe we
    need 2 or 3 terms along the lines of what the airline industry has
    – coach, business, first class. Maybe a case can be made that
    everyone should have access to affordable “basic Internet” that
would let you do all those work, school and government things. The next level up would let you do those plus watch a Netflix
    movie.  For even more money, you can watch multiple video streams
    in HD or 4K resolution.  But that’s about entertainment,
    convenience, and saving money by cancelling your $150/month
    satellite or cable TV subscription.  It’s not about basic human needs.

    At some point in the future, there may be a turning point, if they
    manage to make all forms of broadcast TV (OTA, cable, satellite)
    go away and now everything is on-demand and OTT.  I don’t mind
    telling the little old lady on Social Security renting a
    dilapidated house in the country that she doesn’t need Netflix,
    because she can use an OTA antenna, or get the cheapest package
    from DISH or DirecTV.  But if all those options go away, as the
    government auctions off all the TV spectrum, and DISH and DirecTV
    switch models to OTT streaming, can you tell retired people on
    fixed incomes that they can’t even watch network TV anymore unless
    they have “broadband”?  But that’s a future problem, we’re not
    there yet.  And if the government is really intent on making
    everything IP based, maybe they do need to structure the pricing
    so everyone can still get phone service and watch TV and listen to
    the radio.  I worried about that with Wheeler at the head of the
    FCC.  I don’t think we have to worry about it for at least 4 years
    now.

    *From:*[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
    *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:55 PM
    *To:* Cambium Networks User Group <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject:* Re: [Cambium-users] Huffington Post Article on Rural
    Connectivity

    You can argue a lot for broadband connectivity, but it is
    absolutely NOT a basic human need.

    On Friday, February 24, 2017, RickG <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        “It is no exaggeration that broadband connectivity is now a
        basic human need,” says Atul Bhatnagar, Cambium Networks
        President and CEO. = code speak for more gov money (aka your
        tax dollars)...

        On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Ray Savich via Cambium-users
        <[email protected]
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:

            Cyber Broadcast and Cambium Networks connect a town and
            bridges the digital divide. This article is published in
            the Huffington Post.

            
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-a-small-town-in-illinois-is-bridging-the-digital_us_58b048f3e4b0658fc20f9416


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