Hi Lok Virak, Sorry to jump the queu again. On this issue last weekend while having nice BBQ at a friend's place, a Baraing'friend rang up his Khmer girlfriend in PP to say hello. He then passed the cell phone to a few of his Khmer friends to say hello to her. After saying hello, she mentioned to me that there were now many problems along the border caused by the siem - they wanted to take Khmer lands. I then said, " well the problem is not new to Khmer. Talking about the land issue the yuons have been doing this to Khmer for years but our leaders never uttered a word, the country flooded by the yuons with full voting rights. Why wake up now, was it because of the election hype ? So the siems are jealous of the yuons, they only want to take some too. So what is the matter ? Khmer deserve it because they have voted for them years after years, why cry now ? ".
She then lauged saying yessss...yess let share..we are a race of generosity. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Kiri, > > The influx of the Vietnamese immigrants into Cambodia is real. There is no > need to exaggerate nor understate this issue. It is obvious that the CPP > can't talk about this issue and they probably won't; the last man who dared > to challenge about this issue was stripped from power and jailed for 10 > years. > > However, many Cambodians in rural areas have been brainwashed to accept > this problem as lesser important than their daily survival. Some staunch > members and supporters of the CPP don't care anymore about illegal settlers. > Money and power are more important for them. On the other hand, the people > in the cities are well informed about this issue and many more relevant > issues facing Cambodia. > > Sam Rainsy and Kem Sokha and any non-CPP party's leaders need to make sure > that their organizations are better than the CPP to gain confidence and > support from the people. Talking about Vietnamese illegal immigration may > not be as scary as various threats and intimidation by the CPP, hence the > results. It depends on how one says about the Vietnamese immigrants, it can > be very thorny issue indeed. > > Take care, > > Virak > ======== > > In a message dated 9/11/2008 12:19:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Virk; > I think you the right point. Nobody in Cambodia has the courage to > change. Hun Sen and the CPP do not have the courage to change because they > know they do not want to upset the existing power structure that keeps them > there. The oppositions do not have the courage to change because they > understand that the road to power is doing the same as the CPP. It is sad > to see so-called western leaning "liberal" politicians like Kem Sokha and > Sam Rainsy to use old viet race card to win votes. > I know it is a lot to ask for individual to change consider that they > barely make enough to live. That is why democracy is not what we can > implant overnight and expect to mature overnight. It takes time and it > takes education, compassion, understanding to make democracy possible. No > one is saying the current Cambodian democracy is finest in the world, but > for it to develop, it takes an educated mass and developed country. > Everyone in Cambodia sees his or her way is the right way in her own self > interest but no one, I mean no one put country interests first. I do > understand why people want to be lok tom and I do not envy who are. I > despite however those have idealistic pretentious holier than thou crowd do > to nothing to help the country but their lip service and their self > interests. Ask ourselves What have we done lately for Cambodia besides > contesting for Kout Aing? > > rattanakiri > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Kon Khmer, Lok Bun Heang and all, > > The "will" of most government officials to curb corruption in Cambodia is > very little. All of them know that corruption is bad and very dangerous to > Cambodia's survival, but the influence of dollars (money) and government's > "positions" is too powerful. Corruption sinks much deeper and deeper (than > we can realize) into all Cambodian subconscious mind to the point that > most of Cambodians (from all walks of life) don't know the difference > between right and wrong anymore. Cambodian society today is submerged by > this deadly plague. > > Many people have argued that there are corruptions everywhere in the world > to justify evil deeds in Cambodia. But the fact is clear that Cambodia is > among the worst countries in the world that is run for so long by corrupted > institutions and the government in the open. Everyone knows it, sees it, > hear it and yet decides to go on with it and does very little to stop it... > Many people voted for the same individuals and political parties in the last > general election to run Cambodia again. Why? Because most of Cambodians are > corrupted in/at every levels of Cambodian society. The "haves" paid to the > have-nots to vote for them and the have-nots accepted the payments (in many > different forms) and kept on voting for the same rulers-- the ones who have > more money and power. In the eyes of the laws, the bribers and those who > accept bribes are equally wrong and therefore, in reality, neither one of > the groups will have the courage to change. > > In politics, those who seriously oppose "corruption" and want to lead to > curb it have to be clean themselves. Leaders of all opposition parties need > to be clean and have the will to stop corruption and/evil doers within their > own circle of leadership and infrastructures. Lip servicing is not going to > work. In addition, the people who support the oppositions with all resources > and from all sources need to be vigilant and demand that their > organizations are clean. Clarity and transparency must be provided before > any assistance can be continued and given. > > It is hard for a "toad frog" to successfully sell medications to cure skin > diseases. > > Have a good weekend. > > Virak > ========== > > In a message dated 9/7/2008 12:58:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Dearest Khmers. Esp, all Khmers who have Khmer spirit in their heart , > but not any Khmers who have evil and brutal heart in their mind. > I have read a newspaper article from the Cambodia Daily issued Monday, > August 25, 2008 and realized that a long-awaited anti-corruption > [draft law] has been finalized and will be given to the NA shortly the > fouth government is formed next month. I am sure to believe that no > one believe in what Cambodian government do nowaday. The government > has made many promises to this to do that but everything seems still > be the same, nothing has been improved to be better. I have lived in > my nation country since I was born. One big severe and cardinal > suffering to myself is a liar from my leaders for serveral regimes. > My country leaders they are the smartest liar to their own nation and > people. I still don't know and reveal that how long more...more they > might change their mind to show that they have the real Khmer spirit > in their mind. The way to convince all Kon Khmer who are poor of > education, igorance of their own belief and awkwardness that has been > absorbed in their mind for many centries that still be the big > problem to be cheated by their evil leaders for centuries. > Infact, I was born form cow dung in a very small rural countryside in > Takeo Province, and I moved to find education in Phnom Penh with a > very hard and lonely life. I worked as a builder to earn some money to > support my school fee. Life has been suffered , so I have to struggle > in order to achieve my ultimate goals that I had set when I was young. > I promised to my parents that I would be a high educated person and > become a useful person to my nation and people. In fact, I can achieve > my purpose. > In such a thing, I have learned that there are many primary causes > which all Khmer leaders they have never thought and renovated to help > Khmers and this gold land, but their own power and help to obey and > bown down their head to support the neighboring countries. > I am very serious to have talk about Khmer society for this recent > decade. > I wonder when all Khmer leaders show their Khmer spirit mind to > develop their nation and overcome their neighboring enemies. > There are corruptions almost everywhere in Cambodian starting from the > higher -ranking official to the lowest ranking- official in the > government but it seems to be their stony culture in this small > society. > When I travelled somewhere in cambodia I even heard a young Cambodian > people talking together about corruption corruption corruption in > their community. All Khmers seem to be beggers in the whole county. > Khmer farmers beg for food, clothes, and almost everything from their > local leaders. On the other hand, all Khmer leaders from many > centuries have been the popular beggers in Southeast Asia Pacific. > Eh....I am very shy and very sorry. > I as well as other Kon Khmer doubt how much debt that we have owed > to the other countries. > Cambodia is a rich natural country in Southeast Asia Pacific, > according to the ancient history known as Funan. During that time > Khmer kingdom was a prosperous nation in this mainland. But there long > after centuries why this rich nation has poorer and poorer? Who > have made this rich nation become poorer and poorer , weaker and > weaker? > I think that the primitive reason which has made this kingdom > become poorer and poorer and smaller and smaller nation because of the > lack of leadership of the leaders of this nation for centuries. > The way the Khmer leaders think are power , own family property, > partisanism, power challenge and evil heart they have. > > My suggestion to the fouth mandate government, I think that all > khmer leaders should practice anti- corruption law first of all other > khmer people. You should think that you are the first Cambbodian who > must show up your great mind to love your nation. > The way that is the best belief is that you should declare your > assets to all khmer people to know what kinds of assets you have > owned. In such a thing I and all other Khmer might believe what you > all are doing now. > This way is assuring that all of you have Khmer spirit in your ming > and it can help to develop our country like other countries in the > world. > Eliminating the corruption acitivities from your high-ranking > officials is the primitive factor to show that all of you love and be > honest to Khmer nation and people. > It is enough for you all to eat everything from Kon Khmers. Stop > cheating Khmer. Stop stealing Khmer properties, and Stop bowing down > your head to obey the neighboring enemical countries. > Buddha had taught all his followers to know the five precept > prohibitions: > 1. prohibit killing > 2. prohibit stealing > 3. prohibit sexual disbehavior > 4. prohibit harmful language > 5. prohibit the use of intoxican or druken wine > From Kon Khmer to all Khmer leaders and other Khmers to take consider! > > > > > > > -- MR, Khlean + Khlao + Khlach = Khmer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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