THIS BOOK : " GIAI PHONG " by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper ......
UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam’s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:32:12 -0700 > Subject: Re: The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a stone while > Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from Cambodia > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Khmer Young, > > It looks like you are becoming another victim of either by own-self or > Bury or both. Your thoughts are healthy, but unfortunately are full of > emotional energy which is also part of the egoism. > > Bury is enjoying and feeding on pain. He is wanting to inflicting pain > onto other people, and he has been inflicting by pain onto himself for > all his lifetime. He is addictive to pain, such a person cannot feed > on joy, it’s explains why he hates jokes. His comrades whose > conditions are like him will protect him at all cost, and I hope you > are not one of them. > > Though he is a life-energy, he is life-destructive force. It is > spreading to other people and Cambodia. He is part of the life- > destructive forces that are still ruining Cambodia like the Khmer > Rouges did in the past without realizing it. > > For every second of his life, he is asking where he can get more pain > to write and post in Camdisc. His pain become him, he is totally > possessed by the conditions of pain, only God can help him. > > I just want you to come to a realization that in a wrong environment > like Camdisc, anything can happen to you or anyone. > > If you gave a loan to someone and he didn’t pay it back, it’s not your > fault. If for a second time you gave a loan to him, and he didn’t pay > it back, it not your fault. For a third time, it may even still not > your fault. However, when it’s happened for fourth time and you didn’t > get your money back, it’s definitely your fault. > > It’s used to be the faults of other countries in the past. It’s not a > fault of Thailand and Vietnam anymore. It’s wide of the mark to blame > them for any situation in Cambodia. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 9:46 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wednesday, June 3, 2009 The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a > > stone while Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from > > Cambodia<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/06/thais-are-stupid-be...> > > > > I am younger Cambodian has never seen that culture is more important than to > > have the politicians who have political will for their nation. Current > > Cambodian leaders are planning to self-destruction because they are proud of > > Khmer culture and rocky-temples, but they have never concerned to project > > their long-sighted and strong-structured government leadership. Cambodian > > leaders have neglected to strengthen the rule of laws and support a real > > democratic system. On the other hand, incumbent Cambodian leaders don't know > > the enemy emerging from inside, especially the Vietnamese population that > > has been grown up rapidly in these decades. > > > > Le, > > > > Comparing Cambodia-Vietnam with Vietnam-China is exasperatingly diverting > > the real issue here. China has short shared-border line than Cambodia with > > Vietnam. Historically, China expelled Vietnamese tribe (or Kinh ethnic) to > > escape Southward. In that moment, Vietnamese ancestors had successfully > > expanded their land southward (like the name Vietnam or Viet and Nam itself > > literally translated its meaning as Southward Marching/Expanding). This > > Southward expanding finally could swallow Champa, Prey Norkor and Khmer > > Krom. And all Vietnamese leaders are expecting to annex Lao and Cambodia, > > the ideal Indochina once created by the French. Vietnam's ambition is not > > only there. Uncle Ho planned to expand communist ideology as well as expand > > his Real Estate Business throughout the South East Asia. Uncle Ho is a > > special member of world communist movement, and his operational location is > > in South East Asia. So I don't see that you have hate towards China. You > > should pay gratitude to China that you have today. > > > > From this brief history, you can see China has used propaganda and > > intimidation towards Vietnam rather than taking real action like Vietnam > > sent hundred thousands of troops to post in Cambodia for almost 10 years. > > China operated a so-called instruction war with Vietnam during Vietnam > > invaded Cambodia. It was just a pre-emptive war, not a containing war. But > > Vietnam's presence in Cambodia was intended to contain or plant its strong > > roots inside Cambodia land. At least, Vietnam planned to contain and > > maintain its status quo through two things: > > > > 1. Populating the Vietnamese people inside Cambodia land through > > population strategy that Vietnam used to take over Champa, Prey Norkor and > > Khmer Krom: planting the people, encroaching new plot to create village, and > > lay down the village administration. Cambodia has undeniably been full of > > Vietnamese residents and Vietnamese imposter policemen in major areas in > > Cambodia. > > 2. Creating Vietnam's shadow government (or general public called puppet > > government) that means the leaders are Cambodians but structures and > > powerful advisers are Vietnamese. Cambodia has no empirical study focusing > > on this matter, but many Cambodian elites and figures have favorite tendency > > towards Vietnam more than Cambodian people (in case of current opposition > > political party has been bullied/arrested/insulted while those > > elites/figures pay respect and value Vietnamese in all events). > > > > These two legacies of Vietnam has tremendously embedded in Cambodian society > > and it is literally named "hegemony" or "domination". Hegemonic behavior > > means trying to influence and pressure others through either military, > > political structure, kleptocracy or other patrimonial strategic plans. In > > dictionary, hegemony means the position of being the strongest and most > > powerful and therefore able to control others. Vietnam has projected to play > > this role in Cambodia. Like in Lao, Vietnam agreed to have border markers > > installation but Vietnam knows well that Cambodia cannot control their > > people who entered and lived in Cambodia efficiently. This strategy of using > > people to expand territorial land is very smart and genius. > > > > You mentioned about maintaining culture, rituals, tradition or ancient > > monuments is the good thing for Cambodia to keep its identity and nation. > > Your word is not true and sometime it is very manipulative. While you are > > anti ultranationalism but you advocate to see Cambodia has culture survival. > > Of course, cultural politics had been used in the past and the people became > > obsessive nationalism. Thus, colonialism can still control them all. For > > instance, like you are living in the US, you can see Indian population, or > > the Natives in Canada can preserve whatever identity they want, but what has > > been happening to them nowadays? > > > > I am younger Cambodian has never seen that culture is more important than to > > have the politicians who have political will for their nation. Current > > Cambodian leaders are planning to self-destruction because they are proud of > > Khmer culture and rocky-temples, but they have never concerned to project > > their long-sighted and strong-structured government leadership. Cambodian > > leaders have been neglected to strengthen the rule of laws and support a > > real democratic system. On the other hand, incumbent Cambodian leaders don't > > know the enemy emerging from inside, especially, the Vietnamese population > > that has been grown up rapidly in these decades. > > > > America has powerful influence over Canada, but Canada government is very > > strong and they has projected their country to govern by the rule of laws. > > Canada welcomes immigrants from everywhere but those immigrants have to > > follow the immigration laws of Canada. What other examples that you need to > > know? Cambodia is not in situation like Canada. > > > > I do agree with you that controversy is good for now for Cambodian > > government to strictly implement its rule of laws and particularly, the > > immigration laws before it is too late! > > > > KY > > ------------------------ > > > > Le > > I think I "used to have" the same thinking like you toward China, or many > > young generations in Cambodia (whatever many called brainwashed by hatred of > > Viet land grab, or hegemony etc), but an open minded person would need to > > take others' account too. > > > > "For Cambodia, if we don't have the UN and international communities, we > > don't have present Cambodia.", I think you missed the other half of the > > sentence, something which you did acknowledge before, that you wouldn't have > > present Cambodia, or even yourself writing here and there, without the > > Viet's help. Of course neither the Viet or China presence was good (I hate > > communism too, as it is no good anywhere as we have seen the failure of > > Soviet, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, China etc all the poorest countries in > > the world). But it is what it is, whether you like it or not. But, I am > > INSULTED too that many young generations in Cambodia forgot the price the > > Viet paid to help secure the country from genocide, now to attack Viet > > presence IGNORING the whole history. Same situation as many Viet guys now > > turn against China. During the hard time we were friends, but peace time > > many conflicts arise which will never be solved like land issues. BUT, live > > with it whether we like it or not (mean status quo). > > > > You would go too far if you try to compare any Asian style with Japan, > > Germany or any Western countries. I guess you may be studying in some of > > those countries, so do I living in US for long. It helps changes my view of > > China and how the current world issues (look at the war in Iraq, Georgia) > > may have an implication for small countries in relation with bigger, more > > powerful and sometime not very benign neighbours. Of course I wish US was > > still staying in Vietnam, so their institution would transform Vietnam to > > country like Japan. But it wasn't the case. > > > > The very contentious issue you mention again and again here than there, > > Vietnam dominance and hegemony, I would want to know how you "define" such a > > term? of course I would imagine Vietnam-Cambodia as China-Vietnam, which one > > "dominates" another. Surely you are unhappy with it, as well as many in > > Cambodia. But I just want to remind you that keeping national tradition, > > rituals, culture, politics from being affected have to do more with how you > > deal with such influence and integration of one in another, not trying to > > EXPULSE what you don't like. What I have seen is just the influence, rather > > than exaggerated, "hegemony", which the later is more specific about using > > military might and pressure to corner others. Viet isn't in a position to do > > that. Dominance is correct. But that happens in every countries everywhere. > > Vietnam is heavily under influence of China, same for Canada under US, or > > Cambodia under Vietnam. There is nothing "wrong" with it, except if you are > > afraid of culture loss. What can you do about it? > > > > By the way, the main issue to how Cambodia can make good of itself, rather > > than blame here and there for their situation. Same as the Viet, I wish our > > country could do like the Chinese did with a strong government. It has to > > come with the people better education, economic development and awareness of > > the rules of law, yet it won't happen very soon. We all have a corrupt > > government, but it is changing, as it is more open nowadays than in the > > past. > > > > My last words, most importantly, from a very open minded person, is that > > sometime it is better to live with controversial issues, in order to achieve > > economic development, which both improve people lives and at the same time > > strengthen national images, than trying to shoot it down first then whatever > > later. Politics are dirty and corrupt everywhere. So we sometime have to put > > the ultranationalism view aside, as it only obstructs our steps forward. The > > one who well behaves will be the one who survives and develops as in Darwin > > theory. The Viet had lost the whole past century and millions of lives to > > learn from its mistakes. > > > > -- > > Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless > > strivings of Cambodian Younger > > Generation!http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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