Blaming Yuons will not solve our country problems. Just like blaming Bush right now will not solve Obama's problems. We need to look beyond on blaming others. As an outsider, I am hoping our country, Cambodia, can get along with other countries cause this will benefit all sides.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Bopha Angkor <[email protected]> wrote: > Did yuons ever think about all the horrors and sufferings that yuons can > causes to other people before planning genocide against those millions > innocent people to rob their land and natural resources? > > > > Did yuons ever think about sharing some love or compassion to those people > while planning the killing against these people? Did yuons ever have some > human feeling or compassion toward their victims while planning and led such > horrors against them ? I think NOT. If not yuons wont repeat it over and > over over centuries against these people and always did anything in its > hands to get always from responsibility. > > > > But naturally, yuons cry to be victims of racism, yuons cry for loves, yuon > cry for compassion, for justice while people dressed yuons to face their > horrors. Of course I know that Cambodia is not 100% control by yuons. But it > is not the question here. > > > > I beg, your kind of people can understand what humanity means? Or what can > be love and compassion or emotion? So you leave it out ok, because each time > your kind of people vomit it out, it’s rather an insult and a noble word > invented by humanity. No, I don’t need to be fan of Rainsy or anyone to see > to aware of horrors that yuons did against to much life. It’s just enough to > be a human with some conscience and humanity. > > > > Human is different from animal because human can feel, human can think and > project oneself to the future with some poetic, beauty and dignity for > oneself as well for other, not just live of instinct like animal in which > killing to live and reproduce its specie. > > > > Enough say > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* thisbugone <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: "KHMER RICHE" > > Calm down. Why play the blaming game at other country? Yuons are human > beings too. Are you human? Show some love. The country of Cambodia is not > just controlled by Vietnam but by other countries too. China? Cambodia is > one of the poorest countries in the world. We need help from other > countries and that includes Vietnam. This is part of life and part of > politics. > > Glad to hear you being honest but what do you know about yuons? Yes, they > are humans too. You must be a died-hard Sam Rainsy fan to believe this. > Calm down... > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Bopha Angkor <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No one blame yuons for everything. But for some reasons, often yuons feel >> offense and run fool, insulted itself, because its crime being revealed. >> That's about it. What to say more, even the worse yuon killing machines >> like >> Duch and his comrades still have some sense of responsibility and some >> human >> feeling but YUONS, NEVER. I just being honest in my view. People are >> tired >> and feel horror to see this animal reign and its savage culture that >> ravaged >> Cambodian and people since decades and prison Cambodian people in its >> pilotless power. This animal reign must end if Cambodian people want to >> live >> free with some dignity. >> >> To be honest, the ones who always play race card and claimed to be racial >> victims are yuons while itself led animosity and worse genocide against >> millions people. Champs people have almost exterminated by yuons in the >> worse inhuman ways then Khmer krom as well Laos and Khmer people in >> Cambodia >> have been exterminated by yuons in different ways. >> >> Yuons need to look into its crime and assume its act as others if yuons >> still considered itself as part of human race. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of kangaroo >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:37 PM >> To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org >> Subject: Re: "KHMER RICHE" >> >> Keep blaming everything on Vietnamese. >> I guess Cambodians have no false. Sam Rainsy preach the hate toward >> Vietnamese. He thought that the race card would lead him to be on the top. >> He thought wrong. >> Sam Rainsy race card backfired. He would never win. CPP has been marching >> forward with the majority of Cambodians for a very long time. >> What do you think that Cambodians would rethink about Sam Rainsy? >> Sam Rainsy is dead. >> >> On Jan 14, 3:35 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Called these vietcong pets as Khmer elites is an insult for Khmer as >>> those who are victims of yuons(hanoi) and yuon crimes over decades, if >>> not centuries. Khmers never chose these yuon tools to be their >>> leaders but YUONS DID and maintain its tools in power to destroy Khmer >>> and serve yuon interest through divert political maneuvers. People >>> may say, the Khmer rouge, this generation and last one, are so bad, >>> so barbarous, so savage, so inhuman and more.. Of course they are, it >>> is so evident but to understand people have to look to the animosity, >>> the violence and savagery in the culture, in the heart and in the >>> brain of those who influenced and conditioned these killing machines >>> to use them against Khmer people in order to exterminate Khmer people >>> to free land and resources for those who plan the killing against >>> Khmer. As well, to understand these people (yuon tools) as to >>> understand the current rules and culture in Cambodia, you have to >>> understand the culture and nature of those who dominate and influence >>> >> Cambodia and these people over centuries specially these last decades. >> >>> >>> Of course Khmer have a responsibility in this crime. Their crime is >>> their inability to manage their effort against this reign of animal as to >>> >> end it. >> >>> Yet many of our noble elders have sacrificed their life to fight >>> against this animal reign but they fell. And we fail again during >>> Khmer Republic revolt. But as long as one Khmer still alive he will >>> continue to fight against this animal reign because its aspect, its >>> nature is so opposite to our system of valor as human kind. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> On Jan 11, 4:18 am, "Sam Rainsy Party of North America" >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >http://www.camnews.org/2009/12/31/khmer-riche/ >>> >>> > "KHMER RICHE" >>> > Written by Andrew Marshall >>> > Good Weekend Magazine for the Sydney Morning Herald Sunday 12/12/09 >>> >>> > They live in one of the poorest countries on earth, yet they drive >>> > flash cars, dwell in mansions and scorn their impoverished brethren. >>> > Andrew Marshall meets the rich sons and daughters of Cambodia elite. >>> >>> > The huge Phnom Penh mansion owned by Victor's parents, General Meas >>> > Sophea. (Good Weekend Magazine) >>> >>> > "I'm going to drive a little fast now. Is that Okay?" There is one >>> > place in Cambodia where you can hold a cold beer in one hand and a >>> > warm Kalashnikov in the other, and Victor is driving me there. We're >>> > powering along Phnom Penh's airport road with Oasis on his Merc's >>> > sound system and enough guns in the boot to sink a Somali pirate >>> > boat. Victor is rich and life is sweet. His father is commander of >>> > the Cambodian infantry. He has a place reserved for him at L'Ecole >>> > Speciale Militaire de Saint-Cyr, France's answer to Duntroon. And, >>> > in his passenger seat, there is a thin, silent man with a Chinese >>> >> handgun: his bodyguard. >> >>> >>> > "His name is Klar," says Victor. "It means tiger." >>> >>> > Victor is only 21, but when reach our destination-a firing range run >>> > by the Cambodian special forces-the soldier at the gate salutes. >>> >>> > Devastated by decades of civil war, Cambodia remains one of the >>> > world's poorest nations. A third of its 13 million people live on >>> > less than a dollar a day and about 8 out of every 100 children die >>> > before the age of five. But Victor-real name Meas Sophearith-was >>> > raised in a different Cambodia, where power and billions of dollars >>> > in wealth are concentrated in the hands of a tiny elite. This elite >>> > prefers to conceal the size and sources of their money-illegal >>> > logging, smuggling, land-grabbing-but their children just like to >>> > spend it. The Khmer Rouge are dead; the Khmer Riche now rule Cambodia. >>> >>> > I first met Victor at a fancy Phnom Penh restaurant called Caf Metro. >>> > Outside, Porsches, Bentleys and Humvees fight for parking spaces. >>> > The son of a powerful general, Victor has his future mapped out for >>> > him. He went to school in Versailles, speaks French and English, and >>> > now studies politics at the University of Oklahoma. "My mother >>> > wanted us to get a foreign education so we could come back and control >>> >> the country," he says. >> >>> > The shooting range is where Victor and his friends go to relax. >>> > "I've grown up with guns and soldiers all around me," he says, >>> > laying out a private arsenal on a table: two automatic assault >>> > rifles, two Glock pistols, one sniper's rifle, one iPhone. >>> >>> > "My mother wanted us to get a foreign education so we could come >>> > back and control the country". Meas Victor Sophearith (above) is one >>> > of Cambodian's privileged elite. >>> >>> > Victor and his generation are Cambodia's future. Will they use their >>> > education and wealth to lift their less fortunate compatriots out of >>> > poverty? Or will they simply continue their parents' fevered pursuit >>> > of money and power? Britain's Department for International >>> > Development (DFID), which gave almost $US30 million of its >>> > taxpayers' money to the country in the last fiscal year, offered one >>> > answer in June, when it announced the closure of its Cambodia office by >>> >> 2011. The official reason? >> >>> > "It was felt UK aid could have a larger impact . where there are >>> > greater numbers of poor people and fewer international donors," said >>> > a DFID statement. But the development agency might also have tired >>> > of throwing money at a nation where so much poverty can be blamed on >>> > a grasping political elite-and their luxury-loving children. >>> > (Australia clearly has >>> > not: it has allocated $61.4 million in development assistance to >>> > Cambodia for 2009-10.) >>> >>> > Depressingly, the Khmer Riche Kids sometimes seem indistinguishable >>> > from the old colonial ruling class. They were educated >>> > overseas-partly because their families' wealth made them targets for >>> > kidnapping gangs-and often speak better English than Khmer. They >>> > carry US dollars - only poor people pay with Cambodian riel - and >>> > live in newly built neoclassical mansions so large that the city's >>> > old French architecture looks like Lego by comparison. And their >>> > connection to the Cambodian masses is almost non-existent. >>> >>> > The "Paris Hilton of Cambodia", Sophy, daughter of a Deputy PM. >>> > Sophy's extravagantly decorated car. (Good Weekend Magazine) >>> >>> > Sophy, 22, is the daughter of a Deputy Prime Minister. Rich, >>> > doll-like and self-obsessed, she could be the Paris Hilton of >>> > Cambodia. She imports party shoes from Singapore, brands them "Sophy >>> > & Sina" (Sina is her sister-in-law), hen displays them in her own >>> > multistory boutique. It has six staff, no customers and a slogan: >>> > "It's all aboutme." Sophy's name is spelled out in sparkling stones >>> > on the back of her car, a Merc so pimped up that I have to ask her what >>> >> make it is. "It's a Sophy!" she replies. >> >>> >>> > We meet at her hair salon, where she is prepping a model for a >>> > fashion shoot for a magazine she is starting up with her brother >>> > Sopheary, 28, and their cousin Noh Sar, 26,. All three were educated >>> > abroad and prefer to speak English together. Sopheary, who studied >>> > in New York state, seems both amused and slightly embarrassed by his >>> > wealth and privilege. "What can you do?" he asks. "Your parents give >>> > you all these things. You can't say no. If someone gives you cake, you >>> >> eat it." >> >>> >>> > Talk to Sopheary and his friends, and Cambodia's tragic history >>> > seems very far away. The genocidal Khmer Rouge blew up banks and >>> > outlawed money before being driven from power in 1979. Later came >>> > the 1991 Paris Accords, and the plunder of Cambodia's rich natural >>> > resources-forests, fisheries, land -began in earnest. Cambodia's >>> > official economy largely depend on garment, exports, but there is a >>> > much larger shadow economy in which only the ruthless and the >>> > well-connected survived and prosper. "If you're doing business, you >>> > have to know someone high up, so he has your back," says Victor. >>> >>> > The closer you get to Hun Sen, Cambodia's autocratic Prime Minister, >>> > the better connected you are. Hun Sen staged a bloody coup d'etat in >>> > 1997 and has kept an iron grip on power ever since. Opponents have >>> > been silenced while loyalists have grown rich. This includes >>> > ministers, a handful of tycoons and generals. Cambodians are often >>> > driven from their land by soldiers or military police. Formerly a >>> > French possession, Cambodia has been colonized all over again, this >>> time >>> >> by its own greedy elite. >> >>> >>> > But the Khmer Riche have a problem. "None of them can answer a >>> > simple >>> > question: where does all your money come from?" says a Western >>> > journalist in Phnom Penh. Ask Cambodian ministers how they got so >>> > rich on a meager government salary, and they will reply, "My wife is >>> >> good at business." >> >>> >>> > When I ask Noh Sar, whose father is a senior customs official, why >>> > he is so wealthy, he gives me a slight variation: "My mother works a >>> >> lot." >> >>> >>> > Victor's mother is also good at business, according to "Country for >>> >> Sale," >> >>> > an investigation into the elite published by the London-based >>> > corruption watchdog Global Witness in February 2009. "She is a key >>> > player in RCAF [Royal Cambodian Armed Forces] patronage politics, >>> > holding a fearsome reputation among her husband's subordinates on >>> > account of her frequent demands for money," says the report. "RCAF >>> > sources have told Global Witness that military officers sometimes >>> > bribe [her] in order to increase the chances of her "close connections" >>> >> to a major timber smuggler. >> >>> >>> > It is only in the past few years that the children of Cambodian's >>> > elite have grown confident enough to show off their family's wealth. >>> > "If you want people to respect you in Cambodia, you must have a good >>> > car, good diamonds, a good cell phone," explains Ouch Vichet, 28, >>> > better known as Richard. "It's an I'm-richer-than-you competition." >>> > Richard is quite a >>> > competitor: he drives a $US150,000 Cadillac Escalade and wears a >>> > $US2,500 Hermes watch and a $US13,000 2.5-carat diamond ring. 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