Nicely said but not in practice; it has never been. A good yuon = a dead yuon
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:32 PM, thisbugone <[email protected]> wrote: > Blaming Yuons will not solve our country problems. Just like blaming Bush > right now will not solve Obama's problems. We need to look beyond on > blaming others. As an outsider, I am hoping our country, Cambodia, can get > along with other countries cause this will benefit all sides. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Bopha Angkor <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Did yuons ever think about all the horrors and sufferings that yuons >> can causes to other people before planning genocide against those millions >> innocent people to rob their land and natural resources? >> >> >> >> Did yuons ever think about sharing some love or compassion to those people >> while planning the killing against these people? Did yuons ever have some >> human feeling or compassion toward their victims while planning and led such >> horrors against them ? I think NOT. If not yuons wont repeat it over and >> over over centuries against these people and always did anything in its >> hands to get always from responsibility. >> >> >> >> But naturally, yuons cry to be victims of racism, yuons cry for loves, >> yuon cry for compassion, for justice while people dressed yuons to face >> their horrors. Of course I know that Cambodia is not 100% control by yuons. >> But it is not the question here. >> >> >> >> I beg, your kind of people can understand what humanity means? Or what can >> be love and compassion or emotion? So you leave it out ok, because each time >> your kind of people vomit it out, it’s rather an insult and a noble word >> invented by humanity. No, I don’t need to be fan of Rainsy or anyone to see >> to aware of horrors that yuons did against to much life. It’s just enough to >> be a human with some conscience and humanity. >> >> >> >> Human is different from animal because human can feel, human can think and >> project oneself to the future with some poetic, beauty and dignity for >> oneself as well for other, not just live of instinct like animal in which >> killing to live and reproduce its specie. >> >> >> >> Enough say >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* thisbugone <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:03 AM >> *Subject:* Re: "KHMER RICHE" >> >> Calm down. Why play the blaming game at other country? Yuons are human >> beings too. Are you human? Show some love. The country of Cambodia is not >> just controlled by Vietnam but by other countries too. China? Cambodia is >> one of the poorest countries in the world. We need help from other >> countries and that includes Vietnam. This is part of life and part of >> politics. >> >> Glad to hear you being honest but what do you know about yuons? Yes, they >> are humans too. You must be a died-hard Sam Rainsy fan to believe this. >> Calm down... >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Bopha Angkor <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> No one blame yuons for everything. But for some reasons, often yuons feel >>> offense and run fool, insulted itself, because its crime being revealed. >>> That's about it. What to say more, even the worse yuon killing machines >>> like >>> Duch and his comrades still have some sense of responsibility and some >>> human >>> feeling but YUONS, NEVER. I just being honest in my view. People are >>> tired >>> and feel horror to see this animal reign and its savage culture that >>> ravaged >>> Cambodian and people since decades and prison Cambodian people in its >>> pilotless power. This animal reign must end if Cambodian people want to >>> live >>> free with some dignity. >>> >>> To be honest, the ones who always play race card and claimed to be racial >>> victims are yuons while itself led animosity and worse genocide against >>> millions people. Champs people have almost exterminated by yuons in the >>> worse inhuman ways then Khmer krom as well Laos and Khmer people in >>> Cambodia >>> have been exterminated by yuons in different ways. >>> >>> Yuons need to look into its crime and assume its act as others if yuons >>> still considered itself as part of human race. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of kangaroo >>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:37 PM >>> To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org >>> Subject: Re: "KHMER RICHE" >>> >>> Keep blaming everything on Vietnamese. >>> I guess Cambodians have no false. Sam Rainsy preach the hate toward >>> Vietnamese. He thought that the race card would lead him to be on the >>> top. >>> He thought wrong. >>> Sam Rainsy race card backfired. He would never win. CPP has been marching >>> forward with the majority of Cambodians for a very long time. >>> What do you think that Cambodians would rethink about Sam Rainsy? >>> Sam Rainsy is dead. >>> >>> On Jan 14, 3:35 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Called these vietcong pets as Khmer elites is an insult for Khmer as >>>> those who are victims of yuons(hanoi) and yuon crimes over decades, if >>>> not centuries. Khmers never chose these yuon tools to be their >>>> leaders but YUONS DID and maintain its tools in power to destroy Khmer >>>> and serve yuon interest through divert political maneuvers. People >>>> may say, the Khmer rouge, this generation and last one, are so bad, >>>> so barbarous, so savage, so inhuman and more.. Of course they are, it >>>> is so evident but to understand people have to look to the animosity, >>>> the violence and savagery in the culture, in the heart and in the >>>> brain of those who influenced and conditioned these killing machines >>>> to use them against Khmer people in order to exterminate Khmer people >>>> to free land and resources for those who plan the killing against >>>> Khmer. As well, to understand these people (yuon tools) as to >>>> understand the current rules and culture in Cambodia, you have to >>>> understand the culture and nature of those who dominate and influence >>>> >>> Cambodia and these people over centuries specially these last decades. >>> >>>> >>>> Of course Khmer have a responsibility in this crime. Their crime is >>>> their inability to manage their effort against this reign of animal as >>>> to >>>> >>> end it. >>> >>>> Yet many of our noble elders have sacrificed their life to fight >>>> against this animal reign but they fell. And we fail again during >>>> Khmer Republic revolt. But as long as one Khmer still alive he will >>>> continue to fight against this animal reign because its aspect, its >>>> nature is so opposite to our system of valor as human kind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> On Jan 11, 4:18 am, "Sam Rainsy Party of North America" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >http://www.camnews.org/2009/12/31/khmer-riche/ >>>> >>>> > "KHMER RICHE" >>>> > Written by Andrew Marshall >>>> > Good Weekend Magazine for the Sydney Morning Herald Sunday 12/12/09 >>>> >>>> > They live in one of the poorest countries on earth, yet they drive >>>> > flash cars, dwell in mansions and scorn their impoverished brethren. >>>> > Andrew Marshall meets the rich sons and daughters of Cambodia elite. >>>> >>>> > The huge Phnom Penh mansion owned by Victor's parents, General Meas >>>> > Sophea. (Good Weekend Magazine) >>>> >>>> > "I'm going to drive a little fast now. Is that Okay?" There is one >>>> > place in Cambodia where you can hold a cold beer in one hand and a >>>> > warm Kalashnikov in the other, and Victor is driving me there. We're >>>> > powering along Phnom Penh's airport road with Oasis on his Merc's >>>> > sound system and enough guns in the boot to sink a Somali pirate >>>> > boat. Victor is rich and life is sweet. His father is commander of >>>> > the Cambodian infantry. He has a place reserved for him at L'Ecole >>>> > Speciale Militaire de Saint-Cyr, France's answer to Duntroon. And, >>>> > in his passenger seat, there is a thin, silent man with a Chinese >>>> >>> handgun: his bodyguard. >>> >>>> >>>> > "His name is Klar," says Victor. "It means tiger." >>>> >>>> > Victor is only 21, but when reach our destination-a firing range run >>>> > by the Cambodian special forces-the soldier at the gate salutes. >>>> >>>> > Devastated by decades of civil war, Cambodia remains one of the >>>> > world's poorest nations. A third of its 13 million people live on >>>> > less than a dollar a day and about 8 out of every 100 children die >>>> > before the age of five. But Victor-real name Meas Sophearith-was >>>> > raised in a different Cambodia, where power and billions of dollars >>>> > in wealth are concentrated in the hands of a tiny elite. This elite >>>> > prefers to conceal the size and sources of their money-illegal >>>> > logging, smuggling, land-grabbing-but their children just like to >>>> > spend it. The Khmer Rouge are dead; the Khmer Riche now rule Cambodia. >>>> >>>> > I first met Victor at a fancy Phnom Penh restaurant called Caf Metro. >>>> > Outside, Porsches, Bentleys and Humvees fight for parking spaces. >>>> > The son of a powerful general, Victor has his future mapped out for >>>> > him. He went to school in Versailles, speaks French and English, and >>>> > now studies politics at the University of Oklahoma. "My mother >>>> > wanted us to get a foreign education so we could come back and control >>>> >>> the country," he says. >>> >>>> > The shooting range is where Victor and his friends go to relax. >>>> > "I've grown up with guns and soldiers all around me," he says, >>>> > laying out a private arsenal on a table: two automatic assault >>>> > rifles, two Glock pistols, one sniper's rifle, one iPhone. >>>> >>>> > "My mother wanted us to get a foreign education so we could come >>>> > back and control the country". Meas Victor Sophearith (above) is one >>>> > of Cambodian's privileged elite. >>>> >>>> > Victor and his generation are Cambodia's future. Will they use their >>>> > education and wealth to lift their less fortunate compatriots out of >>>> > poverty? Or will they simply continue their parents' fevered pursuit >>>> > of money and power? Britain's Department for International >>>> > Development (DFID), which gave almost $US30 million of its >>>> > taxpayers' money to the country in the last fiscal year, offered one >>>> > answer in June, when it announced the closure of its Cambodia office >>>> by >>>> >>> 2011. The official reason? >>> >>>> > "It was felt UK aid could have a larger impact . where there are >>>> > greater numbers of poor people and fewer international donors," said >>>> > a DFID statement. But the development agency might also have tired >>>> > of throwing money at a nation where so much poverty can be blamed on >>>> > a grasping political elite-and their luxury-loving children. >>>> > (Australia clearly has >>>> > not: it has allocated $61.4 million in development assistance to >>>> > Cambodia for 2009-10.) >>>> >>>> > Depressingly, the Khmer Riche Kids sometimes seem indistinguishable >>>> > from the old colonial ruling class. They were educated >>>> > overseas-partly because their families' wealth made them targets for >>>> > kidnapping gangs-and often speak better English than Khmer. They >>>> > carry US dollars - only poor people pay with Cambodian riel - and >>>> > live in newly built neoclassical mansions so large that the city's >>>> > old French architecture looks like Lego by comparison. And their >>>> > connection to the Cambodian masses is almost non-existent. >>>> >>>> > The "Paris Hilton of Cambodia", Sophy, daughter of a Deputy PM. >>>> > Sophy's extravagantly decorated car. (Good Weekend Magazine) >>>> >>>> > Sophy, 22, is the daughter of a Deputy Prime Minister. Rich, >>>> > doll-like and self-obsessed, she could be the Paris Hilton of >>>> > Cambodia. She imports party shoes from Singapore, brands them "Sophy >>>> > & Sina" (Sina is her sister-in-law), hen displays them in her own >>>> > multistory boutique. It has six staff, no customers and a slogan: >>>> > "It's all aboutme." Sophy's name is spelled out in sparkling stones >>>> > on the back of her car, a Merc so pimped up that I have to ask her >>>> what >>>> >>> make it is. "It's a Sophy!" she replies. >>> >>>> >>>> > We meet at her hair salon, where she is prepping a model for a >>>> > fashion shoot for a magazine she is starting up with her brother >>>> > Sopheary, 28, and their cousin Noh Sar, 26,. All three were educated >>>> > abroad and prefer to speak English together. Sopheary, who studied >>>> > in New York state, seems both amused and slightly embarrassed by his >>>> > wealth and privilege. "What can you do?" he asks. "Your parents give >>>> > you all these things. You can't say no. If someone gives you cake, you >>>> >>> eat it." >>> >>>> >>>> > Talk to Sopheary and his friends, and Cambodia's tragic history >>>> > seems very far away. The genocidal Khmer Rouge blew up banks and >>>> > outlawed money before being driven from power in 1979. Later came >>>> > the 1991 Paris Accords, and the plunder of Cambodia's rich natural >>>> > resources-forests, fisheries, land -began in earnest. Cambodia's >>>> > official economy largely depend on garment, exports, but there is a >>>> > much larger shadow economy in which only the ruthless and the >>>> > well-connected survived and prosper. "If you're doing business, you >>>> > have to know someone high up, so he has your back," says Victor. >>>> >>>> > The closer you get to Hun Sen, Cambodia's autocratic Prime Minister, >>>> > the better connected you are. Hun Sen staged a bloody coup d'etat in >>>> > 1997 and has kept an iron grip on power ever since. Opponents have >>>> > been silenced while loyalists have grown rich. This includes >>>> > ministers, a handful of tycoons and generals. Cambodians are often >>>> > driven from their land by soldiers or military police. Formerly a >>>> > French possession, Cambodia has been colonized all over again, this >>>> time >>>> >>> by its own greedy elite. >>> >>>> >>>> > But the Khmer Riche have a problem. "None of them can answer a >>>> > simple >>>> > question: where does all your money come from?" says a Western >>>> > journalist in Phnom Penh. Ask Cambodian ministers how they got so >>>> > rich on a meager government salary, and they will reply, "My wife is >>>> >>> good at business." >>> >>>> >>>> > When I ask Noh Sar, whose father is a senior customs official, why >>>> > he is so wealthy, he gives me a slight variation: "My mother works a >>>> >>> lot." >>> >>>> >>>> > Victor's mother is also good at business, according to "Country for >>>> >>> Sale," >>> >>>> > an investigation into the elite published by the London-based >>>> > corruption watchdog Global Witness in February 2009. "She is a key >>>> > player in RCAF [Royal Cambodian Armed Forces] patronage politics, >>>> > holding a fearsome reputation among her husband's subordinates on >>>> > account of her frequent demands for money," says the report. "RCAF >>>> > sources have told Global Witness that military officers sometimes >>>> > bribe [her] in order to increase the chances of her "close >>>> connections" >>>> >>> to a major timber smuggler. >>> >>>> >>>> > It is only in the past few years that the children of Cambodian's >>>> > elite have grown confident enough to show off their family's wealth. >>>> > "If you want people to respect you in Cambodia, you must have a good >>>> > car, good diamonds, a good cell phone," explains Ouch Vichet, 28, >>>> > better known as Richard. "It's an I'm-richer-than-you competition." >>>> > Richard is quite a >>>> > competitor: he drives a $US150,000 Cadillac Escalade and wears a >>>> > $US2,500 Hermes watch and a $US13,000 2.5-carat diamond ring. He >>>> > doesn't have a bodyguard, although some friends keep them as status >>>> >>> symbols. >>> >>>> >>>> > "Crazy money": (above) Ouch "Richard" Vichet is surprisingly candid >>>> > about his >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> read more »- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. >>>> This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. >>>> Thank you for your understanding. 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