Lok Pou Baphoun,
I'm glad to hear that there are still people who work on this issue to defend victims and of course our Khmer people interest. Fighting against this horror is a common cause of everyone of us. I hope you can unite people who fight for the same cause to join you and work together. As I know, there are some communities or people in Canada that advocating for victims of Khmer rouge genocide but I don’t know to what level or figure? There are also few associations in French. Although I think you have to move with some people carefully. A lot of people or associations has one own hidden agenda. And yes, I think you have reasons not to trust on Lok Youk Chhang and his DCC. I tried to talk with Lok Youk hoping to change things there but I think, there is nothing much to focus on with. Lok Youk Chhang refused to talk while asking some sensible questions in particularly concerning over exposing and victimized of yuons by DCC while neglecting millions Khmer killed ect. Lok Youk and his family were also victims of Khmer rouge genocide but instead searching truth and justice for his family and our people Lok Youk consecrates his effort to promote and protect this killing industry and somewhat helps the real assassins to escape from their crimes and responsibility. I’m interest to learn and read more interesting articles or documents from you and your people and hope that you wont focus on Tuol Sleng issue only. Regards Bopha Angkor ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia Dear all, & Dear Bopha, My Team knows all the witnesses. And my Team know well the Vietnamese officer who was responsible of the manipulation and falsification of Toul Sleng Documents. He (the Vietnamese officer) has now a Khmer name and is a very well known high-ranking officer in Hun Sen Administration. You can see often his name in Cambodian press. I will reveal my witnesses' real names only before an international court or US Congress commission or European commission or the Khmer Rouge Tribunal. Of course, I would like they subpoena officially my team. I wrote to the UN and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal that my Team would be honored to testify if some security measures were met. I thought they are not yet ready to open the can of worms. I have asked the UN and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (KRT) to create an investigation UN commission or some kind of bureau independent of the KRT supervised by the UN General Secretary. And then I will work with that new created commission to reveal everything I knew and name witnesses. My team knew also the people's names who were responsible of slaughtering of more than ten thousand people each. They are all high-ranking in Hun Sen administration. Just in Phnom Penh, Boeung Trabek and Prek Leap camps slaughtered more than one hundred thousand prisoners each. There were a dozen extermination camps more of that importance, I meant where more than one hundred thousand people were slaughtered . Tuol Sleng was just a small one where 12,000 people were killed. I knew almost all the others extermination camps. Toul Sleng became well known because the Vietnamese would like it be well known. My team would find thousand and thousand of witnesses who will accept to testify if some security measures would be met. It's worth to remember, the Mafia, or fascist system will eliminate all the witnesses and judges and investigators if they are against the Mafia/fascist regime. They didn't eliminate only the witnesses, they also killed all their family members. Cambodia is ran by a fascist regime. Because they spent too much money and gave credit to much to Document Center of Cambodia (DCC), they cannot fall back now. It took time for them to change their mind. I don't trust DCC. Youk Chhang is neither a scholar nor expert. Who appoint Youk Chhang as the Director? The Vietnamese? I met him with the left Ben Kirnan group in Washington DC before the creation of DCC. DCC was/is under Hun Sen thumb. DCC is a Cambodian NGO which had to please Hun Sen administration. My Team would like to challenge. My Team would like to prove before an international court, or US Congress commission or European Commission, France commission, Japan commission etc. that Toul Sleng documents/DCC documents are fake, manipulated, falsified, doctored by Vietnamese Invasion Forces. Sincerely, Baphuon PS: Special thanks for our national cartoonist Bun Heang and Mr. Sourn (Incamdis) -----Original Message----- From: Bopha Angkor <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:47 pm Subject: Re: January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia Dear Pou Baphoun, Thank you very much for sharing your testimony here. I see it as a very noble and courageous initiative and you have a very interesting approach of the problem. Of course as you have well emphasized here, and I totally agree with you, most of documents or books relating to Khmer rouge got its source from Yuon Hanoi and those who are yuon Hanoi crime partners. Even Mr Dy Kareth’s college who recently wrote an article supposed to be an anti 7 January article but oddly held a yuon discourse justifying yuon invading of Cambodia instead. Sad but true, most documents and history books are reported or wrote by those who made history and not those who endured history. In one word, almost history books are reported by the winners to the detriments of the victims – a kind of clean papers to the glory of those who perpetuate crimes and afflicted crimes to others. Although among these clean papers recited some historical facts that merit to be considered but how readers, cultivated and intellectually depending on these sources, can distingue right from wrong ones. To this extent, memory of the victims have been soiled and massacred again and again after being victims of horrible crimes or massacre again their persons by these criminals or their organization. Reasons why I’m aware of sources of documents even from the most renaming academics. I believe most of academic institutions and intellectuals caution this kind of worldwide criminal political and historical falsification, a kind of genocide of memory of the victims. After all, those victims are, or killed or weak, or poor and they are intellectually much inferior to those who killed them. They can barely contest those who killed them and lead kind of genocide of memory against them. I found it “Cruel”, “Unjust” and opposite to our human sense. Some people viewed me as “revisionist” because I often contested official version of genocide in Cambodia which I considered as “Has No Regard to the victims and their memories”. I think it is important to form a worldwide parallel institution, a kind of antithesis academic oppose to those official (and criminal ) institutions in order to preserve memory of victims of genocide, of oppressions, of abuses or other kind of crimes of its extent. People cant just pick few words, few dates, a piece of things, of event to drawn a conclusion to their advantage specially while it concerns some vital issues. Every aspect of things needs to be considered to get closer to a TRUTH. Although I found your article a bit “inconsistent” Of course between us, I believe that most of events and things that are cited in your article are true. I heard the same things from a bunch of old people who lived these events. Unfortunately till today no one did anything concrete to make these events and testimonies a credit sources that people can cite in their writing or speech. I believe, you need to be more precise to the date, name of people you cite, their location or biography etc, in your article. Then you need to public it in your or a credit information support to make it official. To be serious, I think it is important that this kind of documents should be written by people with their real identity. Time is running against us. Most of our elders who have lived these events directly are old, some are already pass away and cant to nothing now that way it is urgent for all of you who still alive to write up events or testimony, like the one of Pou Baphoun, that you have lived before and after the killing field. It is vital to preserve these testimonies if not, memories of our people, our victims will lose forever to the profit of the assassins and it is a lost for humanity. I talked with Lok Chhang few years back, DCC wishes to collect all testimonies, not only clean and official version, this including oral history from ordinary people and preserve it as part of documents in DCC. But till today I don’t know if this project is being realized or just on lip. Although you and other people can write and sent it to Lok Chhang or direct it to me to I can discuss with Lok Chhang how it can be operate with DCC or at least I can ask to preserve them and public them on Amekhmer. Again thank you Bopha Angkor ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:42 AM Subject: January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia Dear all, Please click the link to read my article in attached pdf in KHMER relative to Vietnamese Invasion of Cambodia, January 07, 1979. January 07, 1979 was officially recognized by the Government of Hanoi as the V-Day over the Imperialism. Under another name, it was also the Day where Vietnam was swallowing Cambodia and became the master of Indochina. Thanks you so much for your time. Baphon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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