He probably was at the Khmer Rouge Expo in Paris in the mid 70s telling
the world their revolution was pure, and greater than the Russian or the
French while his parents and grandparents were rotting in the Khmer
Rouge created hell on earth.
Pierre Henri de Poipet wrote:
Sir Baphuon (ba is typically viet or pig for male) was in Paris during
that time, so he and his imaginary team didn't see shite.
BTW, Elvis and Jesus are not dead : they will do their come-back soon.
Joe, simple mind from Poipet
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*De :* rattanakiri <[email protected]>
*À :* [email protected]
*Envoyé le :* Ven 22 Janvier 2010, 1 h 21 min 54 s
*Objet :* Re: January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the
Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia
whatever, dude sir. You are embarrassing yourself oop! This is a
conspiracy theorist wacko email group. you are at home
I tell you why KRT was concentration on S-21, not because that was the
only crime committed by the KR. Because, they were judging Duch, the
head of S-21. Forced confession document also document the nature of
murderous KR.
thousands of mass graves are over Cambodia, the next phase will
coverage the genocide and systematic killing cambodian people when
they are putting Ieng Sary, Kiev samphon, Ieng thiriti
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear all, &
> Dear Bopha,
> My Team knows all the witnesses. And my Team know well the
Vietnamese officer who was responsible of the manipulation and
falsification of Toul Sleng Documents. He (the Vietnamese officer)
has now a Khmer name and is a very well known high-ranking officer in
Hun Sen Administration. You can see often his name in Cambodian press.
> I will reveal my witnesses' real names only before an international
court or US Congress commission or European commission or the Khmer
Rouge Tribunal. Of course, I would like they subpoena officially my team.
> I wrote to the UN and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal that my Team would
be honored to testify if some security measures were met. I thought
they are not yet ready to open the can of worms. I have asked the UN
and the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (KRT) to create an investigation UN
commission or some kind of bureau independent of the KRT supervised by
the UN General Secretary. And then I will work with that new
created commission to reveal everything I knew and name witnesses. My
team knew also the people's names who were responsible of slaughtering
of more than ten thousand people each. They are all high-ranking in
Hun Sen administration.
> Just in Phnom Penh, Boeung Trabek and Prek Leap camps slaughtered
more than one hundred thousand prisoners each. There were a dozen
extermination camps more of that importance, I meant where more than
one hundred thousand people were slaughtered . Tuol Sleng was just
a small one where 12,000 people were killed. I knew almost all the
others extermination camps. Toul Sleng became well known because the
Vietnamese would like it be well known. My team would find thousand
and thousand of witnesses who will accept to testify if some security
measures would be met.
> It's worth to remember, the Mafia, or fascist system will eliminate
all the witnesses and judges and investigators if they are against the
Mafia/fascist regime. They didn't eliminate only the witnesses, they
also killed all their family members. Cambodia is ran by a fascist regime.
> Because they spent too much money and gave credit to much to
Document Center of Cambodia (DCC), they cannot fall back now. It took
time for them to change their mind.
> I don't trust DCC. Youk Chhang is neither a scholar nor expert.
Who appoint Youk Chhang as the Director? The Vietnamese?
> I met him with the left Ben Kirnan group in Washington DC before
the creation of DCC.
> DCC was/is under Hun Sen thumb. DCC is a Cambodian NGO which had to
please Hun Sen administration.
> My Team would like to challenge. My Team would like to prove before
an international court, or US Congress commission or European
Commission, France commission, Japan commission etc. that Toul Sleng
documents/DCC documents are fake, manipulated, falsified, doctored by
Vietnamese Invasion Forces.
> Sincerely,
> Baphuon
> PS: Special thanks for our national cartoonist Bun Heang and Mr.
Sourn (Incamdis)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bopha Angkor <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the
Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia
>
> Dear Pou Baphoun,
> Thank you very much for sharing your testimony here. I see it as a
very noble and courageous initiative and you have a very interesting
approach of the problem. Of course as you have well emphasized here,
and I totally agree with you, most of documents or books relating to
Khmer rouge got its source from Yuon Hanoi and those who are yuon
Hanoi crime partners. Even Mr Dy Kareth’s college who recently wrote
an article supposed to be an anti 7 January article but oddly held a
yuon discourse justifying yuon invading of Cambodia instead. Sad but
true, most documents and history books are reported or wrote by those
who made history and not those who endured history. In one word,
almost history books are reported by the winners to the detriments of
the victims – a kind of clean papers to the glory of those who
perpetuate crimes and afflicted crimes to others. Although among these
clean papers recited some historical facts that merit to be considered
but how readers, cultivated and intellectually depending on these
sources, can distingue right from wrong ones. To this extent, memory
of the victims have been soiled and massacred again and again after
being victims of horrible crimes or massacre again their persons by
these criminals or their organization. Reasons why I’m aware of
sources of documents even from the most renaming academics.. I believe
most of academic institutions and intellectuals caution this kind of
worldwide criminal political and historical falsification, a kind of
genocide of memory of the victims. After all, those victims are, or
killed or weak, or poor and they are intellectually much inferior to
those who killed them. They can barely contest those who killed them
and lead kind of genocide of memory against them. I found it “Cruel”,
“Unjust” and opposite to our human sense. Some people viewed me as
“revisionist” because I often contested official version of genocide
in Cambodia which I considered as “Has No Regard to the victims and
their memories”. I think it is important to form a worldwide parallel
institution, a kind of antithesis academic oppose to those official
(and criminal ) institutions in order to preserve memory of victims of
genocide, of oppressions, of abuses or other kind of crimes of its
extent. People cant just pick few words, few dates, a piece of things,
of event to drawn a conclusion to their advantage specially while it
concerns some vital issues. Every aspect of things needs to be
considered to get closer to a TRUTH.
> Although I found your article a bit “inconsistent” Of course
between us, I believe that most of events and things that are cited in
your article are true. I heard the same things from a bunch of old
people who lived these events. Unfortunately till today no one did
anything concrete to make these events and testimonies a credit
sources that people can cite in their writing or speech. I believe,
you need to be more precise to the date, name of people you cite,
their location or biography etc, in your article. Then you need to
public it in your or a credit information support to make it official.
To be serious, I think it is important that this kind of documents
should be written by people with their real identity. Time is running
against us. Most of our elders who have lived these events directly
are old, some are already pass away and cant to nothing now that way
it is urgent for all of you who still alive to write up events or
testimony, like the one of Pou Baphoun, that you have lived before and
after the killing field. It is vital to preserve these testimonies if
not, memories of our people, our victims will lose forever to the
profit of the assassins and it is a lost for humanity. I talked with
Lok Chhang few years back, DCC wishes to collect all testimonies, not
only clean and official version, this including oral history from
ordinary people and preserve it as part of documents in DCC. But till
today I don’t know if this project is being realized or just on lip.
Although you and other people can write and sent it to Lok Chhang or
direct it to me to I can discuss with Lok Chhang how it can be operate
with DCC or at least I can ask to preserve them and public them on
Amekhmer.
> Again thank you
> Bopha Angkor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 3:42 AM
> *Subject:* January 7, 1979, the Vietnamese V-Day over the
> Imperialism & Vietnam's swalloing Cambodia
>
>
>
> Dear all,
> Please click the link to read my article in attached
pdf in KHMER
> relative to Vietnamese Invasion of Cambodia, January 07, 1979.
> January 07, 1979 was officially recognized by the
Government of
> Hanoi as the V-Day over the Imperialism.
> Under another name, it was also the Day where Vietnam was
> swallowing Cambodia and became the master of Indochina.
> Thanks you so much for your time.
> Baphon
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Google
> Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
<http://www.cambodia.org>
> <http://www.cambodia.org/>" group.
> This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul
> language.
> Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
>
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc
> Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org <http://www.cambodia..org>
<http://www.cambodia.org/>
>
> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
<http://www.cambodia.org> http://www.cambodia.org/>" group.
> This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul
language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in
Cambodia.
>
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
> For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc
> Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org <http://www.cambodia.org/>
> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
<http://www.cambodia.org>" group.
> This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
> Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> For more options, visit this group at
http://groups..google.com/group/camdisc
<http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc>
> Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
<http://www.cambodia.org>" group.
This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google..com/group/camdisc
<http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc>
Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group.
This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[email protected]
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc
Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia
Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group.
This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language.
Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[email protected]
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc
Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
