You are doing the same thing here. Don't accuse others while you are doing the same thing. Read your writing.
On Jan 23, 9:09 am, sophan <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Everyone; > > I don't understand why there are endless arguments and privacy attacks > in here by our Khmer compatriots who have used their anonymous > nickname such as thisbugone, heng sombath, pierre hendri etc. If I was > not wrong, Rattanakiri is Dr. Narrankiri Tith (but please correct me). > My letter to the Phnom Penh Post is not about my dorm stay or personal/ > private life. It is about part of my opinion to fully exercise our > citizen rights and freedom of expression in a democratic nation. The > letters are also filtered and edited by the PPP before they were > published. Why do they choose this private life to argue here? Is it > called privacy attacking or knowledge improvement? I want to see any > possible approaches which we (Khmers) can bring productive outcomes to > our community and nation rather than malicious speech. > > Otherwise, if someone wants to know what is exactly operating inside > the dorm please click this > link:http://www.eastwestcenter.org/about-ewc/housing/student-housing/ > and don't forget to read the "Resident Conduct Code". Look at the > picture and the room inside this > link:http://www.eastwestcenter.org/about-ewc/housing/housing-facilities/ > There are 12 floors. The 9th and 10th floor is for male students only, > and the 5th and 6th floor for female only. The rests are for mix and > couples. When I was a monk, I stayed in the 9th floor. During that > time, many Cambodian-Americans living in Hawaii took turn to bring > food and pacchai boun (four necessities) to offer to me almost every > week. I am really grateful and appreciate with their Saddha > (dedication) and Panna (wisdom) in Buddhism. > > Overall, I am appreciate and grateful with everyone who have expressed > concerns about me in both personal life and academic study. > > Sincerely, > > Sophan > > On Jan 23, 8:54 am, Pierre Henri de Poipet <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > It's not fine for monks to live in the dorm with females, only for normal > > guys like us. > > How can we party, listen to AC/DC, drink Bud, smoke, watch porn and eat > > dinner or score if monks are around ? > > > Joe, from Poipet > > > ________________________________ > > De : thisbugone <[email protected]> > > À : [email protected] > > Envoyé le : Ven 22 Janvier 2010, 16 h 57 min 45 s > > Objet : Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > Off campus housing is not the same as the dorm. What kind of pills are you > > taking while writing the email below? If one chose to be a monk one must > > follows by its religion. > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM, rattanakiri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I went to college once. I know these co-ed international student dorms are > > like an apartment building. Everyone has his or her own room. This is far > > from what you have implied. Even if he decided to live off campus, it is > > the same setting. Each apartment complex is going to females and males > > residence. Where do you think he should stay? Freshmen dorm? > > > >>Heng Sombat wrote: > > > >>>Hey Rattankiri, > > > >>>>You miss the whole picture here. Monks are subjected to be a pure > > >>>>person > > >>>>that we all respect and trust during his period of serving his monkship > > >>>>regardless young or old. If you claim that it is fine for a monk to > > >>>>live in > > >>>>the same dorm with female(s), I must say that you have lost track and > > >>>>you do > > >>>>not have any believes in Buddhism. Or you are pretending to be > > >>>>Buddhism. Or > > >>>>you are an idiot just like what "thisbugone" said. Please check with > > >>>>your > > >>>>parents about Buddhism before you response. > > > >>>>Sombat > > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > >>>>Behalf > > >>>>Of thisbugone > > >>>>Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:23 AM > > >>>>To: [email protected] > > >>>>Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > >>>>Monk and women can stay together lol. You must be an idiot! > > > >>>>On Saturday, January 16, 2010, rattanakiri <[email protected]> > > >>>>wrote: > > > >>>>>Some people may not realize it but speak ill of someone including > > >>>>>making a > > > >>harsh and quick judgement unfairly on someone is unbecoming a buddisht. > > >>Remember, Buddha teaching speak rightly only. > > > >>>>>In a poor country like Cambodia, monastery life is a way out of poverty > > > >>and a chance for a proper education. In fact, many celebrated Khmer > > >>leaders > > >>>>and scholars owed their career to their days in as a monk. I think not > > >>>>any > > >>>>Cambodians would be shocked if a monk rejoins his civilian life. > > >>>>Cambodian > > >>>>buddhists offer money, food to monks in order to receive good karma, > > >>>>blessing. Should the monks refund the money, foods back if he returns > > >>>>to > > >>>>civilian life. Would you expect the monk perform a return of good > > >>>>karma, > > >>>>blessing back to heaven from those people? Give me a break. > > > >>>>>Savouth Chea wrote: > > > >>>>>>Aloha, > > > >>>>>>As a resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he represents, I > > >>>>>>wanted > > > >>to share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about his motives. > > >>>> Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only foresee > > >>>> further > > >>>>disruption. > > > >>>>>Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back in 2006. The > > > >>first time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some Cambodian > > >>>>community members since he was a Khmer new to the island. Some knew > > >>>>his > > >>>>background from the past and had their opinions (good but mostly bad), > > >>>>but I > > >>>>tried not to take people's word for it. As months progressed, however, > > >>>>I > > >>>>came to see that the warnings I had heard were true. First, he used the > > >>>>Buddhist religion to advance himself rather than becoming a monk > > >>>>selflessly > > >>>>in dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While attending the > > >>>>University of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. One may > > >>>>think > > >>>>this is not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself in the > > >>>>company and living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? He often > > >>>>flirted with young female members of our community and made > > >>>>inappropriate > > >>>>comments - causing some of our youth and their parents to become very > > >>>>upset! > > >>>> He was affiliated with a so-called ‘temple’ in Hawaii, and performed > > >>>>Buddhist ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a monk, right? > > >>>> But > > >>>>in 2009, he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a monk, but > > >>>>came > > >>>>back to the United States only a couple of months later with a wife! > > >>>>Prior > > >>>>to his trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community in Hawaii > > >>>>that he was going there to represent and gain support for the temple > > >>>>and the > > >>>>Buddhist religion. The ‘temple committee’ gave him $400, and some > > >>>>individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk and/or > > >>>>student. > > >>>> Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were shocked. > > >>>> Did > > >>>>he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain himself nor > > >>>>apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get married. > > >>>>No, > > >>>>he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true. > > > >>>>>To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents himself as a > > > >>‘community facilitator.’ To be a facilitator, ideally one has to be > > >>>>neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he openly > > >>>>expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even as a > > >>>>monk, > > >>>>whose studies are supposed to focus on learning and internalizing > > >>>>Buddhist > > >>>>principles and the path to peace, he chose to pursue a degree in > > >>>>/political > > >>>>science/. Most if not all of the articles he has written to the Phnom > > >>>>Penh > > >>>>Post (PPP) discuss politics. At the close of each of his articles, he > > >>>>signed "Sophan Seng, University Hawaii at Manoa, United States," or > > >>>>"Cambodian Students of Aloha" (the University's student organization). > > >>>> This might indicate that his opinions echo those of other Khmer at the > > >>>>University of Hawaii. They do not. Again, he is not representing the > > >>>>university, Khmer in Hawaii, or the United States of America. He used > > >>>>these > > >>>>closures to make himself look good with outside parties. Not all Khmer > > >>>>in > > >>>>Hawaii (or elsewhere in the United States) agree with him. > > > >>>>>In his previous correspondence, Sophan stated, “If you want to know me > > > >>more, go to these links.” The links he provided, > > >>http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html > > >>>><http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Ecsaloha/officers.html> and > > >>http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Esophan/>, are > > >>>>links that were self-created -- using the university- related resources > > >>>>(originally created for the use of the student group as a whole) for > > >>>>personal gain, again. Was the information he put on the site approved > > >>>>by > > >>>>the majority of the students in the organization? Has anyone else > > >>>>affiliated with the CSAloha used this site for personal boasting? No. > > >>>>Not > > >>>>even the founders, myself or Mr. Chanthoeun To, ever considered using > > >>>>this > > >>>>site to toot our own horns. The purpose of CSAloha, ‘…does not > > >>>>represent > > >>>>any political or religious ideologies both on/off campus.’ Yet he used > > >>>>the > > >>>>university-based name/group to send articles about politics to PPP and > > >>>>other > > >>>>media. Like Mr. Heng Sombat mentioned in his email, ‘He just wanted his > > >>>>name to be read in Phnom Penh Post.’ > > > >>>>>Most of the articles he wrote to the PPP from Hawaii attacked the > > >>>>>current > > > >>Cambodian government and sided with opposition political parties. Hmmm . > > >>. > > >>>>. Sophan, when you were in Cambodia, did you write any articles to the > > >>>>PPP? > > >>>> Or did you simply enjoy yourself there and then come back to the > > >>>> safety of > > >>>>the U.S. to criticize Cambodia? Why attack the government of your own > > >>>>country? Do you just use your country for personal gain as well? > > >>>>Samdech > > >>>>Hun Sen has been a Prime Minister for years. 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