To live and grow, human sometime need to fight, human talk, human can agree or disagree, human can have different point of view according to their possibility. Human can fight to defend and preserve their principles, their beliefs as well things which are previous for their human sense. And there are all kind of human who we sometime need to defend, sometime to fight against ect But those things aren't affaire of animal.Quite
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To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:23 PM Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post Cambodian typical attitude cannot be eliminated because it has been rooted into the society for a very long time. If they can't agree on something, digging dirt on their persona; affair would be the tool to destroy oneself. That's Cambodians. On Jan 11, 1:57 pm, "Bopha Angkor" <[email protected]> wrote:
Listen up lok Sambat, I barely know people here personally and I don't care much how this or that people live their private life while it doesn't threaten to collective or national interest. It is their ideas that merit to be considered or not. All I see is you and your people traced and exposed Mr Sophan privacy in public, whether right or wrong, because you and your people don't like what he wrote and posted in PPP because for you and your people, it didn't serve your Cambodia (cpp) interest. Tracing someone life or privacy in public for his opinions or political stands is considered as a threat to people privacy or life for political purpose. Of course, you don't need to claim who you are. Your message and behaviors show it clearly here. People can see it and feel it. Bopha Angkor ----- Original Message ----- From: Heng Sombat To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:56 AM Subject: RE: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post Dear Bopha Angkor, With all your respect sir, I have a few questions for you. Do you know Mr. Sophan personally? If not you need to find out more about him from the Khmers in Hawaii and Khmers Canada first. What and how do you come to conclusion that I threaten Mr. Sophan privacy or life? All I said was for him to stop taking advantage of people and telling lies. My Cambodian political party is not in power, actually we have less MP in the Parliament than SRP. I am all about progress for Khmer people. Are You? For your information, I was one of the young Khmers that help other Khmers mobilized helps in the late 70' and early 80'. Signing your name under city or country would be fine, but signing your name above an institution would be implying your association or representing that institution. Sire, I hope this help you clarify my pure heart intention. Because when we are weak, enemies will strike. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bopha Angkor Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post Sir, One visible social behavior is a complex social relation specially for a society like one Cambodian. Prejudge people from one visible fence can be completely false of one reality. You and your people trace and threaten to Mr Sophan privacy and life because Mr Sophan dares to stand his opinions which is opposed or not in line to your band political line. - Mr sombat, I don't see any wrong to sign with a locate where people live or precise one statue. Non paragraph of Mr Sopha talked on behalf of other but his own opinions. Right or wrong, what you and your people trace about Mr Sophan privacy or behaviors revealed a morality fence, nothing to see with his political stand but threaten people life or privacy for rising voice against a tyrannical regime or behaviors is sure a "political crime or threat" - Khmer Monks are also Khmer citizen why they cant fulfill their duty to protect and preserve their society while vietcong monks or cpp monks can widely run religions or Buddhism as political tool to poisoning or silent Khmer people in order to better kill and destroy Khmers. One dominant culture of Khmer rouge, tyrants and fanatics emerges in Cambodia since decades: First they try to corrupt you. If it doesn't work, they trace your privacy and that of your family and if it doesn't work, it is your life and those of yours that these tyrants will try to reach. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Savouth Chea To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:31 AM Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post Aloha, As a resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he represents, I wanted to share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about his motives. Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only foresee further disruption. Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back in 2006. The first time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some Cambodian community members since he was a Khmer new to the island. Some knew his background from the past and had their opinions (good but mostly bad), but I tried not to take people's word for it. As months progressed, however, I came to see that the warnings I had heard were true. First, he used the Buddhist religion to advance himself rather than becoming a monk selflessly in dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While attending the University of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. One may think this is not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself in the company and living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? He often flirted with young female members of our community and made inappropriate comments - causing some of our youth and their parents to become very upset! He was affiliated with a so-called 'temple' in Hawaii, and performed Buddhist ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a monk, right? But in 2009, he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a monk, but came back to the United States only a couple of months later with a wife! Prior to his trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community in Hawaii that he was going there to represent and gain support for the temple and the Buddhist religion. The 'temple committee' gave him $400, and some individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk and/or student. Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were shocked. Did he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain himself nor apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get married. No, he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true. To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents himself as a 'community facilitator.' To be a facilitator, ideally one has to be neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he openly expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even as a monk, whose studies are supposed to focus on learning and internalizing Buddhist principles and the path to peace, he chose to pursue a degree in political science. Most if not all of the articles he has written to the Phnom Penh Post (PPP) discuss politics. At the close of each of his articles, he signed "Sophan Seng, University Hawaii at Manoa, United States," or "Cambodian Students of Aloha" (the University's student organization). This might indicate that his opinions echo those of other Khmer at the University of Hawaii. They do not. Again, he is not representing the university, Khmer in Hawaii, or the United States of America. He used these closures to make himself look good with outside parties. Not all Khmer in Hawaii (or elsewhere in the United States) agree with him. In his previous correspondence, Sophan stated, "If you want to know me more, go to these links." The links he provided,http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.htmlandhttp://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/, are links that were self-created -- using the university- related resources (originally created for the use of the student group as a whole) for personal gain, again. Was the information he put on the site approved by the majority of the students in the organization? Has anyone else affiliated with the CSAloha used this site for personal boasting? No. Not even the founders, myself or Mr. Chanthoeun To, ever considered using this site to toot our own horns. The purpose of CSAloha, '.does not represent any political or religious ideologies both on/off campus.' Yet he used the university-based name/group to send articles about politics to PPP and other media. Like Mr. Heng Sombat mentioned in his email, 'He just wanted his name to be read in Phnom Penh Post.' Most of the articles he wrote to the PPP from Hawaii attacked the current Cambodian government and sided with opposition political parties. Hmmm . . . Sophan, when you were in Cambodia, did you write any articles to the PPP? Or did you simply enjoy yourself there and then come back to the safety of the U.S. to criticize Cambodia? Why attack the government of your own country? Do you just use your country for personal gain as well? Samdech Hun Sen has been a Prime Minister for years. He lives in Cambodia most of his life, unlike Mr. Sam Rainsy. When problems arise in the country, Samdech Hun Sen is still there. How about Mr. Sam Rainsy? He leaves the country when problems come up. Then, his students and his followers pay the price since they can't leave the country like him. Now, I am not affiliated with any political party in Cambodia. I am simply noting that you only support a given official or bureaucrat when it suits you. Perhaps it is easier to get an American scholarship if you are attacking a socialist country leader rather than supporting him? Sophan, why try to divide the country instead of uniting it? Are you using your Canadian and US bases to get asylum to live abroad permanently?? Your articles to the PPP do not help the current issues in Cambodia; instead, you are dividing the government and her people. Before you decide to sound off your opinion again, you should take a look at yourself in the mirror again and think about whether you are helping Cambodia with your words and actions, or, by pretending to be some sort of expert from the safety of your current North American address, making things worse for the people of our motherland. Savouth Chea Honolulu, Hawaii -----Message d'origine----- De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Heng Sombat Envoyé : samedi 9 janvier 2010 21:08 À : [email protected] Objet : RE: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post Sophan, The CSALOHA website is very outdated ... read more »- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text
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