On Aug 30, 2:44 am, LeHai <[email protected]> wrote: > You say that the Khmers who are most disgruntles are not Cambodians, > but oversea Khmers. But this assumption fly a bit ironic for me as the > person who makes this statement doesn't live in Cambodia either or is > not even Khmer. >
Perhaps, you need to read word by word again to understand. No one says that Khmers who are most disgruntles are not Cambodians, but overseas Khmers. How can you come to that conclusion? > You have to admit then, that you don't know the truth either, whether > the Cambodians are really disgruntle of the current government or not. > You're also just making assumption as an outsider just many of these > outside Khmers that you pointed out are doing. > You are obsolutely right. I am not claiming as an expert who knows it all. I only say what I see. Today, Cambodians are still living well under the regime that many oversea Cambodians are against. I have asked numerous times why those Cambodians did not rise up against the regime since it is so bad as many have claimed. Beside, I see numerous countries around the world built their embassies in Phnom Penh under this regime. Can you explain it? If the regime is so illegitemate, why did those countries make friends with it? > The truth is, one doesn't have to think hard to understand why many > inside Cambodian have been so silent. Think Chea Vichea, Eang Sothuon > (the Khmer monk who had his throat slit inside a temple), the two That's what I don't believe. If Cambodians have the will, they would rise up no matter what. We had seen them do it in the past. The fact is that many Cambodians are parts of that regime. Many intellectuals are working for that regime. I am certain that many of them would rise up against it if the regime has sold the country to Vietnam. I strongly believe that they would die before they loose their country to Vietnam. Don't eve underestimate the Cambodian people. > Khmer farmers currently in jail for voicing concern over their stolen > land, Chi Kreng village represents jailed for protesting against land > grab, Mam Sonando, Khem Sokha were also jailed for voicing opposition You cannot say that it is a land grap situation. Cambodians overseas don't see the reality. It's not that cut and dry. It's alot more than you think. > on issues of territorial integrity, Sam Rainsy is still in exile on > that very subject, Mu Sochua is forced to pay fine after Hun Sen Sam Rainsy killed himself. He should have been in jail today if he is so courageous as a Cambodian representative. Instead, he choose to run because he has a comfortable home to run to. What kind of representative is that. On Mu, this lady brought the matter into her own hands. She destroyed her ownself. She sued a powerful person without any ground. Show me the ground that she had. I have no doubt that Hun Sen really wanted to say it toward Mu. However, Mu must prove it in court that Hun Sen really had that intention. I bet you that Mu could not prove it. She may be able to prove by using public sentiment. I am almost certain that she cannot do in any court. > clearly defamed and used derogatory words against her. These are the > list of recent events occurring since 2005. Going back, just a little > we would see the list of assassination and political exiles go up in > appalling numbers. > Once again, we had seen struggles in the past. Cambodians always rised up for the challenge including the Khmer Rouge regime. > So what can a neutral observer conclude for these history? Well, Hun > Sen government is indeed corrupt and rule with intimidation and Hun Sen government is corrupt and whatever you want it to be. However, this government is as corrupt as amny other governments before it. These things have been a part of the cambodian culture. The people to Cambodia praise those who can get position to distort the money to get rich. It is the culture itself promoting it, not just Hun Sen's government. > threat. When even the politically well known people are assassinated > and forced into exile, what can give us reason to believe that the > ordinary people will have any courage to stand against injustice? They > have no independent court to protect their freedom of expression at > all. > What I say is that things are not as bad as you think. Cambodia today is far better than it has ever been in the last five decades. This is the truth. Do you know who lead it to this point? That's right. Hun Sen and CPP have been leading the country to where it is today. You cannot take that away from them. I am not a fan of today Cambodian government, but it is true that they have made their country to where it is today. It could have been better. Yet, they have done it to where it is today. > Kangaroo, you should take those facts into consideration, even if you > don't live in Cambodia, the history will at least present to you a > clear picture of what is really going on in Cambodia. > I took those facts into my consideration before I write it. My position is very clear, and I always give explaination and reasons behind it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
