Dear LeHai, Your comment is fair and make sense, I can't agree more. Please continue to share, I hope someday it would help to open some blinds here to see the truth. Congratualations. Regards,
Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 8/30/10, LeHai <[email protected]> wrote: From: LeHai <[email protected]> Subject: Re: A Regretful Sorrowful Khmer Tradition To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:44 AM You say that the Khmers who are most disgruntles are not Cambodians, but oversea Khmers. But this assumption fly a bit ironic for me as the person who makes this statement doesn't live in Cambodia either or is not even Khmer. You have to admit then, that you don't know the truth either, whether the Cambodians are really disgruntle of the current government or not. You're also just making assumption as an outsider just many of these outside Khmers that you pointed out are doing. The truth is, one doesn't have to think hard to understand why many inside Cambodian have been so silent. Think Chea Vichea, Eang Sothuon (the Khmer monk who had his throat slit inside a temple), the two Khmer farmers currently in jail for voicing concern over their stolen land, Chi Kreng village represents jailed for protesting against land grab, Mam Sonando, Khem Sokha were also jailed for voicing opposition on issues of territorial integrity, Sam Rainsy is still in exile on that very subject, Mu Sochua is forced to pay fine after Hun Sen clearly defamed and used derogatory words against her. These are the list of recent events occurring since 2005. Going back, just a little we would see the list of assassination and political exiles go up in appalling numbers. So what can a neutral observer conclude for these history? Well, Hun Sen government is indeed corrupt and rule with intimidation and threat. When even the politically well known people are assassinated and forced into exile, what can give us reason to believe that the ordinary people will have any courage to stand against injustice? They have no independent court to protect their freedom of expression at all. Kangaroo, you should take those facts into consideration, even if you don't live in Cambodia, the history will at least present to you a clear picture of what is really going on in Cambodia. On Aug 30, 4:48 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems that you agree with me that many of those people are from > another country. They may go back to visit or work in Cambodia. Yet, > they are oversea Cambodians. > How about those who live in Cambodia? > I strongly believe that those cambodians would rise to fight for their > own country if they know that Vietnamese are behind all of this > Cambodian crabs. I don't think that they see it as many oversea people > see it. > > On Aug 29, 8:03 am, Watkeo Kuma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Kangaroo, > > > I disagree with you on this statement as you had post: > > > Have you ever thought that the people who really attack current > > Cambodian government are mostly those who ARE NOT living in the > > country? > > > Have you ever thought that many people who call Cambodia Vietnamese > > this and that are mostly those who ARE NOT living in Cambodia? > > Have you ever thought that many peole who support Sam Rainsy and > > against current government are mostly those who ARE NOT actually live > > in Cambodia? > > > Most of those people travel in Cambodia and get involve in Cambodia's > > society so they knew what's going. I don't believe that you can close your > > eye and write the story up without seeing a thing. You must kidding..... > > > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:16:26 -0700 > > > > Subject: Re: A Regretful Sorrowful Khmer Tradition > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > > On Aug 27, 5:26 am, Pheng Kim Ving <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Re:http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/502a70aed... > > > > > Hello cppamerican cppamerican, (it's amazing to say your username > > > > twice, d'ohh!!) > > > > > Many haters use barbaric foul gross coarse disgusting language to > > > > insult the current Cambodian leaders including elected ones, yeah > > > > yeah, including the current government who's ELECTED BY THE CAMBODIAN > > > > PEOPLE. This is a regretful sorrowful feature of the > > > > Khmer tradition (Sihanouk insulted Lon Nol personally with disgusting > > > > words unworhty of a leader or a king, from Peking (now Beijing) during > > > > the 1970-1975 civil war). > > > > Have you ever thought that the people who really attack current > > > Cambodian government are mostly those who ARE NOT living in the > > > country? > > > Have you ever thought that many people who call Cambodia Vietnamese > > > this and that are mostly those who ARE NOT living in Cambodia? > > > Have you ever thought that many peole who support Sam Rainsy and > > > against current government are mostly those who ARE NOT actually live > > > in Cambodia? > > > > > The haters live in the west, and so they should be aware that in the > > > > west it's even not acceptable to call an elected official (from > > > > president or prime minister down to a small-town councillor) a liar, > > > > let alone insult him/her with barbaric foul gross coarse disgusting > > > > language. Some Khmer words utilized by the Khmer haters are so > > > > barbaric foul gross coarse and disgusting that they don't even have > > > > exact English equivalents. > > > > I would not go that far when it comes to freedom of speech. > > > I know that Cambodians sometimes speep it under the rug when it > > > clashes with their tradition. > > > In the west, freedom of speech is real. That's why you are seeing our > > > messages today. > > > > > Take Care, > > > > > Pheng Kim Ving Pheng Kim Ving, d'ohh!! ok ok just Pheng Kim Ving > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > > > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > > > Thank you for your understanding. 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