Hi,
I asked myself why did you discuss with that individual whose judjement in the 
Khmer issu is mostly being kangaroo.

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De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de 
Jayakhmer
Envoyé : jeudi 21 octobre 2010 14:22
À : Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
Objet : Re: A Conversation with Kangaroo


Dear Kangaroo,

My point here is simple.   In English when you said,"Cambodians have
been fighting each other for a very long time,”  it means literally
the action of fighting is non-stop.  And what I am saying here
is ,yes, fractions of Cambodian people did fight but they had
stopped.  That is a big difference.

It is a simple English grammar.

Jay



On Oct 21, 1:19 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 20, 2:16 pm, Jayakhmer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Kangaroo,
>
> > You said, “You can call them Kampucheans, Khmers etc..... They are
> > all
> > the same man.”
>
> > I have no problem with that Cambodians, Kampucheans, Khmers.  These
> > names are the same in the sense that they refer to the same people who
> > share the same territorial boundary.  It is the same as if one calls
> > it Cambodia, Kampuchea, or Srok Khmer.  All refers to the same
> > geographical location.
>
> > The problem I have is that you just made another false statement, “
> > This act only further split their own society.”  There is not much I
> > can do about this.  It is your opinion, though, it is an uniformed
> > one.
>
> And what is your problem?
> I don't seem to understand what you are saying. You said that you have
> a problem.
> What is that problem?
> If you said it is my opinion, what is the problem?
> If you disagree with it, why can't you explain why you disagree with
> it?
> And you mentioned something about splitting the society further. I
> really don't understand what you are trying to say.
>
> > As far as I can remember neither there is no record of war or conflict
> > between Kampucheans and Khmers nor is there a record of war or
> > conflict between Khmers and Cambodians.  No one ever fought a war in
> > Cambodia because one was a Kampuchean as opposed to because one was a
> > Khmer.
>
> It seems that you can't accept the fact that Cambodians were fighting
> each other in their own country.
> Do you know who ran the kingdom of Cambodia? Was it Sihanouk?
> Do you know who ran the republic of Cambodia? Was it Lon Nol?
> Do you know who ran the Khmer Rouge? Weren't they Cambodians?
> Did all of these factions fight each other at one point or another?
> If you don't know any of these events, please check the history of
> Cambodia first before you say something about it.
>
> > War and conflict did occur due to preference of difference political
> > ideologies such as Communist vs. the Free world.  Republicanism vs.
> > Monarchism and so on so forth.
>
> Ideologies don't fight. People do.
> People with different ideologies fight for their own belief.
> So don't even try to go that way.
>
> > I have a feeling that there is a sense of pernicious and
> > vindictiveness in your statement here the fact that you are only
> > targeting just my people and my culture and not the Chinese, the
> > Middle Eastern nationals, or the Europeans.  Some had it worst than
> > Cambodia.
>
> Once again, let me give the statement to see if you can give us yours.
> Cambodians cling to the culture of corruption and to practice the
> culture of impunity over no one but their own people in their own
> country. It happens from the top all the way to the bottom of the
> society. Actually, it is a part of the Cambodian culture. That's how
> they get the job done.
>
> Now, if you disagree with the above statement, what is yours. Explain
> us why you disagree with it.
>
> > You stated, “Cambodians have been fighting each other for a very long
> > time”
>
> > In recent Cambodia's history, let me recount, for your information:
> >                 .  From 1970 to 1975  ideological war
>
> Who fought that war?
> Cambodians or ideologies?
>
> >                 .  From 1979 – the war was between the invading force and 
> > the Khmer
> > Rouge.
>
> And what are you trying to say?
>
> >                 .  1991 Paris Peace Agreement ( no more war)
>
> Do you know why that peace agreement was for?
>
> >                 .  1997 a mall coup that last for a very short time.
>
> Who were the parties in that conflicts?
>
> >                 .  There is no war since.
>
> > What I tried to demonstrate here is that there are factions of
> > Cambodians who had fought in the past.
>
> Did you forget to finish your thought here?
> You are right. Cambodians fought each other in the past.
> I thought you said they did not.
> Now, you are saying that they had.
>
> > To say that, “Cambodians have been fighting each other for a very long
> > time,” is simply a fat exaggeration intended to belittling Cambodia
> > and Cambodian People.
>
> How many decades had Cambodians fight each other?
> Did Sihanouk not fight communist group in Cambodia?
> Did Lon Nol regime not fight communist coalition in Cambodia?
> What did you call them?
> Cambodian querrels?
>
> > I hope you are conscious of the words and phrase you are using.
>
> I hope you know what you are saying.

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