HO CHI MINH IS A VIETNAMESE PHAN BOI CHAU IS A VIETNAMESE > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:35:03 -0700 > Subject: Re: A Conversation with Kangaroo > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I ask myself why they keep coming to the issues. > There must be something. > That's right. It is touching the nerves because it is the truth, isn't > it? > > > On Oct 21, 6:07 am, "Krakmo Kaing" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I asked myself why did you discuss with that individual whose judjement in > > the Khmer issu is mostly being kangaroo. > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part > > de Jayakhmer > > Envoyé : jeudi 21 octobre 2010 14:22 > > À : Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org > > Objet : Re: A Conversation with Kangaroo > > > > Dear Kangaroo, > > > > My point here is simple. In English when you said,"Cambodians have > > been fighting each other for a very long time,” it means literally > > the action of fighting is non-stop. And what I am saying here > > is ,yes, fractions of Cambodian people did fight but they had > > stopped. That is a big difference. > > > > It is a simple English grammar. > > > > Jay > > > > On Oct 21, 1:19 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 2:16 pm, Jayakhmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kangaroo, > > > > > > You said, “You can call them Kampucheans, Khmers etc..... They are > > > > all > > > > the same man.” > > > > > > I have no problem with that Cambodians, Kampucheans, Khmers. These > > > > names are the same in the sense that they refer to the same people who > > > > share the same territorial boundary. It is the same as if one calls > > > > it Cambodia, Kampuchea, or Srok Khmer. All refers to the same > > > > geographical location. > > > > > > The problem I have is that you just made another false statement, “ > > > > This act only further split their own society.” There is not much I > > > > can do about this. It is your opinion, though, it is an uniformed > > > > one. > > > > > And what is your problem? > > > I don't seem to understand what you are saying. You said that you have > > > a problem. > > > What is that problem? > > > If you said it is my opinion, what is the problem? > > > If you disagree with it, why can't you explain why you disagree with > > > it? > > > And you mentioned something about splitting the society further. I > > > really don't understand what you are trying to say. > > > > > > As far as I can remember neither there is no record of war or conflict > > > > between Kampucheans and Khmers nor is there a record of war or > > > > conflict between Khmers and Cambodians. No one ever fought a war in > > > > Cambodia because one was a Kampuchean as opposed to because one was a > > > > Khmer. > > > > > It seems that you can't accept the fact that Cambodians were fighting > > > each other in their own country. > > > Do you know who ran the kingdom of Cambodia? Was it Sihanouk? > > > Do you know who ran the republic of Cambodia? Was it Lon Nol? > > > Do you know who ran the Khmer Rouge? Weren't they Cambodians? > > > Did all of these factions fight each other at one point or another? > > > If you don't know any of these events, please check the history of > > > Cambodia first before you say something about it. > > > > > > War and conflict did occur due to preference of difference political > > > > ideologies such as Communist vs. the Free world. Republicanism vs. > > > > Monarchism and so on so forth. > > > > > Ideologies don't fight. People do. > > > People with different ideologies fight for their own belief. > > > So don't even try to go that way. > > > > > > I have a feeling that there is a sense of pernicious and > > > > vindictiveness in your statement here the fact that you are only > > > > targeting just my people and my culture and not the Chinese, the > > > > Middle Eastern nationals, or the Europeans. Some had it worst than > > > > Cambodia. > > > > > Once again, let me give the statement to see if you can give us yours. > > > Cambodians cling to the culture of corruption and to practice the > > > culture of impunity over no one but their own people in their own > > > country. It happens from the top all the way to the bottom of the > > > society. Actually, it is a part of the Cambodian culture. That's how > > > they get the job done. > > > > > Now, if you disagree with the above statement, what is yours. Explain > > > us why you disagree with it. > > > > > > You stated, “Cambodians have been fighting each other for a very long > > > > time” > > > > > > In recent Cambodia's history, let me recount, for your information: > > > > . From 1970 to 1975 ideological war > > > > > Who fought that war? > > > Cambodians or ideologies? > > > > > > . From 1979 – the war was between the invading force > > > > and the Khmer > > > > Rouge. > > > > > And what are you trying to say? > > > > > > . 1991 Paris Peace Agreement ( no more war) > > > > > Do you know why that peace agreement was for? > > > > > > . 1997 a mall coup that last for a very short time. > > > > > Who were the parties in that conflicts? > > > > > > . There is no war since. > > > > > > What I tried to demonstrate here is that there are factions of > > > > Cambodians who had fought in the past. > > > > > Did you forget to finish your thought here? > > > You are right. Cambodians fought each other in the past. > > > I thought you said they did not. > > > Now, you are saying that they had. > > > > > > To say that, “Cambodians have been fighting each other for a very long > > > > time,” is simply a fat exaggeration intended to belittling Cambodia > > > > and Cambodian People. > > > > > How many decades had Cambodians fight each other? > > > Did Sihanouk not fight communist group in Cambodia? > > > Did Lon Nol regime not fight communist coalition in Cambodia? > > > What did you call them? > > > Cambodian querrels? > > > > > > I hope you are conscious of the words and phrase you are using. > > > > > I hope you know what you are saying. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > > Thank you for your understanding. 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