Neak Kampuchea, Hinduism doesn't teach to eat fresh meat (are you aware that hindus even worship cows, monkeys, etc?? d'ohh!!), or to explore new lands (Hinduism is confined to India). Even though Buddhism teaches to not kill, there have always been butchers and fishermen. Can you tell of any time period in Cambodia when there were no butchers and no fishermen?? Can you tell of any time period in Cambodia when Cambodians didn't eat meat?? The strict rules of Buddhism apply only to monks, plus, although monks aren't allowed to kill, they're allowed to eat meat, d'ohh!! Are you aware that the historical Buddha himself ate meat?? Anyway, can you tell of a religion that doesn't teach to not kill??
Do you realize that the Vietnamese and the Chinese themselves are also Buddhists?? Kampuchea Krom was taken from Cambodia by the French, not by any religious or political Cambodian leader, and handed over to Vietnam. There were no immigrants to Kampuchea Krom. Kampuchea Krom was torn apart from Cambodia and given to Vietnam by the French. Naturally when Kampuchea Krom became a part of Vietnam, some Vietnamese people moved in; that wasn't immigration; it was demographic dynamic, as Kampuchea Krom is a part of Vietnam. Are you aware that at the present time there's a movement in the West that's fightin' against eating meat?? Are you aware that former Beatle Paul McCartney is the leading spokesman of that movement?? So, if not- eating-meat is that harmful, why does that movement in the West exist?? Are you aware that eating meat isn't good for your health?? Are you aware that the Vietnamese people in Vietnam follow the strict- rules-for-monks of Buddhism more strictly than the Cambodian people in Cambodia do?? They have at least 1 day of being vegetarian every month, while the Cambodians don't have anything like that. So, are you aware that blaming on the not-eating-meat for the ills of Cambodia is ridiculous?? Do you realize that the Khmer Rouge were hostile to Buddhism and were trying to erase it from Cambodia?? Thus, according to you, the Khmer Rouge did the right thing. Hence, according to you, the genocide as attempted by the Khmer Rouge was also right. D'ohh!! Well Well, you double the length of your article by repeating the entire first part of it. Why do you do that?? D'ohh!! Are you a Hindu?? Or a Christian?? Your claim "And young Cambodian generation will slowly change and change their minds for ever with no way to stop them by any mean except God." is an evidence that you're anti-Buddhism because you believe in a god while Buddhism completely ignores the concept of god. Stop blaming Buddhism for the ills of Cambodia. Don't try to use the ills of Cambodia as a pretext to attack Buddhism. How many more times do I need to educate you that Vietnam, Thailand, and Laos are also Buddhist countries, plus they're even more Buddhist than Cambodia?? If you're a Hindu or a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim, then admit it, so that we would have a fair discussion. Pheng On Nov 18, 2:31 pm, Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> wrote: > . > Is this the so-called Khmer culture foundation heritage that is self- > evaluated as highly superior as others? > > 1000 years ago, Hinduism had taught Khmer people to eat fresh meat, > drink goat or cow milk, resist and explore new lands, kill enemies and > build Khmer Empire with thousand Temples. 300 years later, due to > social and religious change, this Khmer Empire had begun to > disintegrate and damage enormously its own original Khmer culture from > 800 years ago. > > From that time Khmer people have been becoming week, unable to defend > themselves with a very large size of Khmer Empire causing several > North West provinces to annex them to Siam. At the same time in > Southern part Kampuchea Krom had also been in the disintegration > process until the arrival of French’s Colonial. > > Because Buddhism had come, and in reverse, it’s taught Khmer not to > kill for food or for any other purpose, so that majority poor Khmer > Buddhist believers eat dead meat and salted fish. There were neither > Khmer butchers nor Khmer fisherman. But there has been still existed a > lot people who needed fresh meat or fresh fishes and there had been > questions how to get them without slaughtering animals? > > This is the answer, why Khmer religious leaders and Khmer politicians > at that time had closed their eyes to Vietnamese and Chinese > settlements at the immigration sea gates in Kampuchea Krom delta land > since 300 years ago, because these people could catch fresh fish and > kill animal for Khmer food markets > > This is the reason why Khmer Krom idiot monks at that time had been > preaching to the local not to harm those immigrants, let them come for > committing sin for us so that we, Khmer could get fresh fish and fresh > meat as needed in the market for making foods offering to monks, as > they thought that Vietnamese and Chinese settlement had been important > for Khmer so that Khmer could be maintaining Buddhism without > committing sin of killing for meat at all. > > Businesses, which had been growing up, had encouraged more and more > Vietnamese and Chinese to come and continued in million more when the > arrival of French colonial, at which Vietnamese and Viet-Chinese-Khmer > integrated population had already been reached three times more than > genuine Khmers remote isolated farmer groups in Kampuchea Krom (actual > South Vietnam). > > Now Khmer Krom are becoming minority Khmer ethnic on they own land. > Their young Khmer generations are angry and pointing finger to > Cambodian mainland leaders without realizing that this disastrous > fault had been committed by their own Khmer Krom ancestors in the past > at the Deep South land. > > Is this the true fact of Vietnamese INVASION? Or just Vietnamese and > Chinese economic immigration settlement since 200 years ago before > immigration law had been known to be adopted in relevance to > internationals > > French colonial had also openly received million and million new > Chinese arrivals with no need to carry any paper works at all for just > a quick fulfilling empty economic growth in Indo-China as the whole > because at that time local indigenous Khmer, Lao even Vet ethnic were > only farmers. > But exclusively for Khmer people, there had been 80% Buddhism > followers, they were self-malnutrition inflicted because they avoided > killing for fresh meat. They just eat spoiled salted fish or dead > meat, they never raise pig, chicken but only cows and buffaloes not > for killing for meat but only for farm works, they will eat their meat > when those animals die from what ever the causes even from disease. > > They turned idiots on blaming each other as they have no intelligence > for use to solving problems facing them. > > At the top they did not do anything for protecting their own people as > Khmer believed anything is going to be fine with Buddha fellowship. > But at to top they do thing just for protecting themselves such as > Khmer leaders like to promoted and still continue everyday promoting > several Khmer social classes, which will be surrounding them as a > thick and thicker security protection walls, which do not characterize > a real democracy at all. In addition this is a driving force for > urging all Khmer people to be obligated crawling and bowing before the > king and before upper classes, which include: Samdech, Oknha, > Chumteav, Ek-Ordom, Lok-Sethey, and Lok-Machass. > > They rule over majority low class farmer and worker. Is this the so > called Khmer culture foundation heritage that is self-evaluated as > highly superior as others? > > For that reason why Cambodian Government must do everything for > keeping stand still the same Khmer culture model ranging from always > keeping same Khmer different social classes, sane meaning Khmer > language, Khmer style of cloth, of art, music, dance and Khmer way of > life. > This action is only an appearance for domestic political consumption > momentary serving social stability. But this self-proclaimed highly > valuable Khmer foundation culture will probably be slowly extinguished > with no way to stop it’s in the face of universal impact, actually > coming into Cambodia as in other parts of this world. > > Young Cambodian generation of Khmer national or others have naturally > mindset for willing to get something new as other nationals people > around the world routinely do. This is the real natural human rights, > that no one can stop its. They says yes Sir, or yes Madam, before > hardliners, but their mindsets always secretly lead them to something > new, from the changing world though Education, TV, Internet, tourism > and immigration. They read news, email and massage back and forth > everything to each other and will probably become civilized and > knowledgeable citizen aren’t they? > > When they turn back to see their own stagnated mother Khmer culture, > they will feel too hard to understand and to accept; because holding > the break on Khmer ethnic culture not to advance as it should be for > too long, will probably create a big gap between genuine Khmer ethnic > culture and global modernity impact. > > Please be understood that creating a big gap between genuine ethnic > Khmer culture and universal change impact, will produce a complete > dissolution of nationalism. And young Cambodian generation will slowly > change and change their minds for ever with no way to stop them by any > mean except God. > > Look, this is what happening right now. Under the tremendous influence > of World Bank and I M F, Cambodian Government needs to set a strong > institutional infrastructure network for the country to work with > efficiency and also at the same time for replacing retired officials > and a push for potential economic development. > > For accomplishing this entire task requirement, government needs > urgent new schools new universities with international curriculum > standard and English. So there are now younger collage graduates each > years coming up in the range of thousand and thousand and in millions > in a few years as the whole Cambodian young generations. > Those young and fresh people will probably change Cambodia to a full > democratic state with no exception > > Is this the so-called Khmer culture foundation heritage that is self- > evaluated as highly superior as others? > > 1000 years ago, Hinduism had taught Khmer people to eat fresh meat, > drink goat or cow milk, resist and explore new lands, kill enemies and > build Khmer Empire with thousand Temples. 300 years later, due to > social and religious change, this Khmer Empire had begun to > disintegrate and damage enormously its own original Khmer culture from > 800 years ago. > > From that time Khmer people have been becoming week, unable to defend > themselves with a very large size of Khmer Empire causing several > North West provinces to annex them to Siam. At the same time in > Southern part Kampuchea Krom had also been in the disintegration > process until the arrival of French’s Colonial. > > Because Buddhism had come, and in reverse, it’s taught Khmer not to > kill for food or for any other purpose, so that majority poor Khmer > Buddhist believers eat dead meat and salted fish. There were neither > Khmer butchers nor Khmer fisherman. But there has been still existed a > lot people who needed fresh meat or fresh fishes and there had been > questions how to get them without slaughtering animals? > > This is the answer, why Khmer religious leaders and Khmer politicians > at that time had closed their eyes to Vietnamese and Chinese > settlements at the immigration sea gates in Kampuchea Krom delta land > since 300 years ago, because these people could catch fresh fish and > kill animal for Khmer food markets > > This is the reason why Khmer Krom idiot monks at that time had been > preaching to the local not to harm those immigrants, let them come for > committing sin for us so that we, Khmer could get fresh fish and fresh > meat as needed in the market for making foods offering to monks, as > they thought that Vietnamese and Chinese settlement had been important > for Khmer so that Khmer could be maintaining Buddhism without > committing sin of killing for meat at all. > > Businesses, which had been growing up, had encouraged more and more > Vietnamese and Chinese to come and continued in million more when the > arrival of French colonial, at which Vietnamese and Viet-Chinese-Khmer > integrated population had already been reached three times more than > genuine Khmers remote isolated farmer groups in Kampuchea Krom (actual > South Vietnam). > > Now Khmer Krom are becoming minority Khmer ethnic on they own land. > Their young Khmer generations are angry and pointing finger to > Cambodian mainland leaders without realizing that this disastrous > fault had been committed by their own Khmer Krom ancestors in the past > at the Deep South land. > > Is this the true fact of Vietnamese INVASION? 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