On Dec 26, 2:10 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course, it is the debate of the world is more convergence or > divergence. Many scholars concluded that though the world is not > frontier, but it is more divergence than convergence. > > But I am still unable to catch your main idea. Tell me please what is > your central idea in your argument? > > Thanks > > On Dec 26, 10:47 am, Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Khmer young. > > > I'am so sorry Ok! > > > But please, as a man who has deeply been understanding social > > evolution and multi-ethnic integration, I should tell the true, or > > even do making some effort to show, what I have seen, so that unaware > > individuals could change their mind for proceeding Rightiuosness > > together toward peace and prosperity. > > > If you and I are encourraging criminals, we probably never be able to > > see justice with good judgement in Cambodia or in anywhere else. > > > I would like to tell you that Nationalist is no long exsited in today, > > because someome can not be Enghishman when speaking fluencely English, > > the same way as people speak Khmer could not be Khmer. > > > So please, we need to know, that the whole world has been changing > > nationalist equation to countryman without consideration of any race, > > extemple some Cambodian are now American, French, > > Austalian, New zealandian. This is the fact that you and me could never idendify anyone national through their language they speak. and also their skin and face looked. Unlike long ago, people has been enclosed in their own borders so that they speak one sole language and when you speak Khmer is Khmer, Isn't that right?
And after hundred years of war people have been moving together, mixing together and moving and moving for living in a safe place. Like my family and I are in the US and all my grandkids are now speaking fluence English also Khmer. Not all, there are others Cambodian, Vietnamese, middle Eaterners; when you see their face how you guess? The same thing in Europe, in US, in Asian and in Africa. How world leaders are going to do with these world events? I am telling you this: All khmer scholars educated in France are not reallize those changing social-political landscape around the word as I just told all of you. They blindly continue to endeavar their rudimentary and out of date tac-tic like this, How they win the uneducated leader Mr.Hun Sen, which has been surounder with thousand experts supplied from World Bank, IMF and UN advisery. > > > One more thing to follow this human political momentum, that is going > > beyong coutrynam as I have just said. They are now going to regional- > > man and centinantal-man: US nation, EU nation and ASEAN nation. People > > start to cross border without Visa, and on and on toward business > > liberlization for all. > > Thank you, with my best regard. From Neak Kampuchea,. > > > On Dec 25, 2:38 am, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It is overwhelming. Though some of your thought reflecting truth, but > > > you are not caring about preserving and helping them at all. No, Telling the true is not is a good idea for all for understanding, If you know something wrong and help them to hide, you encourage them for doing the same, and at the end result is to distroy the country, likewise Khmer Rouge did. Look! I want to tell you one giant corruption hiding under the shadow of Cambodian Goverment: Khmer nation itself has been creating Khmer culture extremism and corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen Sen’s birth date. Please be understood that Cambodian is not a race as certain individual has thought. One should thinks this English word meaning is not the same as Khmer language, which has not been adjusted for decades along with social evolution or in others words along with multi-ethnic integration. Every English word we speak has been up dated. So please be careful to catch-up this English word Cambodian, which is designated for all inhabitants within Cambodia, without discriminating of Khmer or other origins of birth, races, sex, color, belief, and political tendency, but not exceeding to be illegally added with Khmer ethnic of Vietnam and Khmer ethnic of Thailand. Cambodian is nominated for people, only within Cambodia’s legal boundary. The Cambodian constitution, it self, has truly been creating Khmer extremist movement, culture of corruption and impunity due to Khmer extreme religious nationalism with misjudgment for Cambodian sustainable social evolution stability. Look, Cambodia is the official name of the country, its inhabitants should be called Cambodian, which is none relevance for Khmer citizen? Now, please examine Sam Rainsy’s party and Rong Chhun’s union worker leader; they do politics in the name of Khmer in the constitution, which has some English words mistranslated into Khmer clause: “We the people of Cambodia are Khmer citizen” in place of Cambodian citizen. (Pulrath-Kampuchea or Chun-Kampuchea). These two men, their teams and Ms.Musochea have never called Cambodian people in Khmer word Chun- Kampuchea as Mr. Hun Sen did. This is the reason why there is extremist Khmer movement that has been pushing thousand and thousand Khmer Krom of Vietnam and Khmer Surin of Thailand to coming to Phnom Penh for claiming their Khmer citizenship, because they said they are also Khmer like the others in the country. And no doubt, there is a strong support from SRP and Union leader Rong Chhun for their political gain. This potential problem will last, and has extended to make Cambodian instability threat, until some day Cambodian Government will understand and decide a decisive reform those malicious constitutional clauses, in which there is democracy principal flaw as “all human are created equal with freedom of expression. . Mr. Hen Sen knows all of that, but he thinks this is not the time yet, until next young Cambodian generations will become more educated as needed in the majority Cambodian. For now, he and his government official have a full power to unconstitutionally cross over, order of doing anything and calling all Cambodian in Khmer word,”Chun-kampuchea” as for teaching ahead of the time needed, and also expressing a willingness for avoiding discrimination of origin of birth of all inhabitants in Cambodia in the face of UN human right, NGO groups, domestic and oversea Cambodian as well. This is what, CPP is doing about. We the people of Cambodia need Constitutional reform for replacing old version “Khmer citizen” by a new description” Cambodian citizen” for relevance to the countries name Cambodia. 1-We the people of Cambodia are “Cambodian citizens”. 2-The government of Cambodia is from Cambodian for Cambodian. 3-The state is separated from religion, which is belonging to the people. If religion continues to belong to the state, Cambodia could never be able to alleviate poverty and corruption, which has been invisibly rising and legally hiding behind the power of Cambodian government itself. Believe or not, except to anyone, but please to take a look as the following: If one of ministers, one provincial governor, one state or a provincial prosecutor, or just a district councilor president or national assembly president, or senator president, will plan to do for example: Kathenatien, Haih-Phkar, Kanben, or Acpisech preah, the whole staff under the one who does one of those religious ceremonies, must be serenely forced to put some money for taking part with theirs big bosses, not for belief season, but instead as loyalty for keeping their job security. As Cambodia has no “none-profit organization laws” to ruler over every association (An association is a group of two or more persons, who get involve in any business) in the country, who is going to dare asking for transparency and accountability? So what is about the big amount of money they has collected? If the same boss will do one ceremony two or three time a year, their staffs need two or three times money input lost, perhaps the total amount is enough for buying clothes needed the whole year for their children. How about military and police generals, or Commanders, who controls thousand soldiers, or thousand police officers? Are they done same religious ceremonies like civilian ministers did? Yes we are sure, because we have seen them done. And then, we even know that police and military boss do not wait for their staff’s money to come voluntary, but they just cut some amount of money from their pay-roll without asking them. Who is going to dare to ask? But I’m sure those victims are going to whisper anywhere. There are also all over the country, thousand and thousand influential private Cambodian business middle classes, which have been doing the same religious ceremonies? Yes! They did more than government officials do, as they have more free times. How about the big money they have collected from hundred innocent Buddhist Cambodian believers under their influence? Who is going to be sure they did not corrupt? Is this an easy way for make easy money any time as needed? One more thing to finalize my very painful of low government class officials: Some big guys did the same thing not only for religious ceremonies, but for offering large amount of money to Cambodian RED CROSS of which First lady Bunary Hun Sen is the president, for helping Cambodian disaster victims. Those big guys did get big money from the cut of pay-roll of their staffs far differently from civilian who did get money voluntary from their subordinate officials through their job security worrisome. This is a smart way; big guys can show their faces through First Lady Bunary, for making his loyalty known to Mr. Hun Sen at the expense of their suffering staffs. Those entirely painful example stories mentioned above is an imperceptible gigantic corruption, good Cambodian government needs to find an adequate win-win strategy to legally control and overcome them smoothly through some kind of know-how, from the US’s expert is best. But this could happen only if Mr. Hun Sen had political will, as he is a very powerful Cambodian leader of our time. Mr. Hun Sen needs investigation? Yes? It’s an easy task! Please just send Mr. Soy Sopheap to secretly ask questions hundred first class soldiers and police officers. I am sure he will find lot evidences. But I’m afraid Mr. Hun Sen will be silence for a big while before taking any action and I think Mr. Soy Sopheap will be perhaps unable to show on TV screen as he did on very small guys every day and night . Look! The state religion promotes corruption in every angle of Cambodian society, because it’s illegal to say something that is happening very badly about Buddhism. People must all the time shut their mouth, so please be understood that state should be separated from religion, and Corruption will go down automatically at least 60% and if with additional “none profit organization law”, it would be gone more to 90%. Please beware that I did not criticize Mr. Hun Sen at all. Today I swear and I pledge clearly declaring that Mr. Hun Sen is the best Cambodian leader, most Cambodian and all foreign powers can trust more than others, as we have been seeing all along, and there is no need to mention about them. But I see under his shadow with this kind of Cambodian constitution, in which there is no good judgment for Cambodian social evolution to develop and adopt with, because there is extreme religious nationalism integrated within an invisible corruption in every angle of Cambodian government and social communities. But even though with the above prospective problem, we can still see, in the next 10 years Thailand and Vietnam will be very difficult to compete and challenge Cambodia due to Mr. Hun Sen news’s potential openness economic policy, which has enormously been attracting foreign investors and tourism as well. All of those Hun Sen’s works have been weighing on these two giants neighbors that are unaware of being self-trapped with their own beloved nationalism barriers for a long time to come. I really hope that Hun Sen will change and change the country until sometime ahead obtaining good judgment for all Cambodian and foreigners as well. Please remember that this Khmer social culture had already been built thousand years before Mr. Hun Sen has born in this country. So please be patient, he needs more experts, more times, and bigger power in order to be able to pass-over this current malicious Cambodian constitution without problems before a real reform had happened. > > > > Enough is enough...your comment make all Khmer readers dividing from > > > each other especially between Khmer Krom and Khmer kandal etc. > > > > I am admiring your dedicating to write long article without relaxing. > > > > KY > > > > On Dec 25, 12:48 am, Neak Kampuchea <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > SRP HAS BEEN USING KHMER KROM MONKS AS THE WAY FOR RAISING MONEY IN > > > > DOMESTIC AN ABROARD AS WELL. > > > > > We, Cambodian speak Khmer at home, as Chinese and Vietnamese do theirs > > > > in any country they live around the World. We still maintain our > > > > identity and national pride for hundred years to come. Why Khmer Krom > > > > are doing the opposite way outside Kampuchea Krom? > > > > > They are claiming that Khmer culture is their unique soul, but they > > > > don’t understand what means Khmer culture, in which have been composed > > > > Khmer Language tone, Khmer custom, Khmer style of clothe, Khmer style > > > > of Art, and Khmer way of life. > > > > > They are always claiming that because they are oppressed of Human > > > > Rights under Communist Viet. But when they are already abroad, why > > > > they still do the same as they did in Khmer Krom. There is no excuse > > > > for a better communication as most Khmer Krom speak Vietnamese at > > > > home. This attitude shows that they are completely Vietnamese > > > > integrated no matter they are of Khmer ethnic or others. > > > > > For that reason above, Khmer Krom Communities have already been more > > > > than halfway integrated into Vietnamese society. Look at them, when > > > > they speak Khmer, they do with100% Vietnamese tone; if we listen to > > > > them we think they are real Vietnamese as in addition to their women > > > > wearing of Vietnamese style costume. > > > > > 99% of their young generation men and women speak Vietnamese at home > > > > and in public. All their children like to make boyfriends and > > > > girlfriends with Vietnamese kids rather than Khmer's they say too > > > > primitive and ugly; as we have seen anywhere around the world: In > > > > U.S.A, in Canada, in Australia and in France as well. > > > > > Old Khmer Krom, of pure Khmer culture, are becoming minority among > > > > their own Khmer Krom communities in their own Khmer Krom homeland. > > > > They will vanish away in a few years ahead leaving young Khmer Krom > > > > generation fully integrated to Vietnamese. > > > > > KKrom say that they hate Vietnamese, but some time they forget to > > > > control themselves, when they have seen their Khmer Krom close friends > > > > near by, they just shouted louder for calling them in Vietnamese > > > > worlds in the face of every Cambodian. > > > > > This is the Khmer Krom social attitude, which could not be corrected > > > > even someone of them realize this fault. If this, Khmer Krom think, is > > > > not their fault, because they are themselves already becoming real > > > > Vietnamese... Aren't they? As they are so, how the Khmer krom > > > > could liberate their land as they have said. > > > > > Most of them are criminals committed in South Vietnam when they escape > > > > to Cambodia. Some of those criminals are often disguised as monks for > > > > easy concealing their outlaw behind Buddhism. > > > > > Arriving at Cambodia’s border those criminal shave each others heads > > > > then wrap themselves in yellow robe for misguiding themselves as real > > > > monks escaping Vietnamese religious prosecution so that they will > > > > surely be accepted with 100% protected by Cambodian border guards and > > > > would be settling them in some Buddhist temples anywhere in the > > > > country. > > > > > Since 1953 Cambodia had independence from France, from which there > > > > have been hundred disguised Kampuchea krom monk escapees everyday and > > > > until now the number might reach hundred thousand spreading from 5 to > > > > 20% in every Buddhist temple in Cambodia and abroad as well. > > > > > Most these fake monks prefer staying always monks, they believe as > > > > this is the best way for making money for their own saving, and at the > > > > same time they will be able for spreading Vietnamese hatred through > > > > senior Cambodian, who are coming for Buddha warship at every pagoda > > > > temples every week? > > > > > When they are returning home, those Khmer seniors are going to whisper > > > > Vietnamese hatred with occupation of Cambodia to their sons and > > > > daughters with closed eyes strong belief with monks who told them as > > > > they are used to believe with Buddha. > > > > > This is a great danger for the country, in which most Khmer seniors > > > > Buddhist belief without checking anything other news in TV or on real > > > > information from some one, who are just coming from Cambodia. > > > > > This is the real fact, that SRP has a unique possibility to raise > > > > money by always attacking Hun Sen with land encroachment by > > > > Vietnamese, Vietnamese influence on Hun Sen.’s government, Vietnamese > > > > fake Cambodian high ranging officials such as Hor Nam Hong, Om yen > > > > Tieng. They ( Rainsy’s team) even blame thousand and thousand of > > > > university’s students with clear skin as fake Vietnamese Cambodian. > > > > They Sue Hun Sen. to American attorney general about grenade attack, > > > > to EU parliament about human right abuse, to Paris accord’s member so > > > > on and on. > > > > > Remember that all these petitions Sam Rainsy has sued to international > > > > institutions need money isn’t it? > > > > > The answer is yes! So raising money is from where? We are100% sure, > > > > it’s always starting from Khmer Krom fake monks to senior Buddhist > > > > followers and their sons and daughters, except other million majority > > > > smart Cambodian. > > > > > Please don’t be wonder, why I want to come back to see those Khmer > > > > Krom fake monk escapees again. Because at an opportunity time there > > > > are also some of them, who have been secretly defogged themselves for > > > > integrated in Cambodian social mass when they get enough money for > > > > getting marriage with some Khmer Krom women, mostly already have two > > > > or three children. This is the best trick, criminal Khmer Krom man > > > > used to come first, and then women and children come later. > > > > > Most of them form political groups demonstrating Khmer love Khmer > > > > example for Cambodian to follow them against Vietnamese. But this is > > > > ridiculous as at their home in Cambodia their whole families, > > > > husbands, wives and children speak influence Vietnamese to each > > > > others, but not Khmer. > > > > > As the matter of above facts, making Khmer Krom association in exile > > > > is a real clown game just for raising money for their own pockets. > > > > Nothing they could do other than to travel. Travel back and forth, > > > > lying...lying...then raise money again and again. This is a small > > > > group of crooked Khmer Krom scholars who just want to make dishonest > > > > profit and take free vacations, on the back of their own people > > > > anywhere each year. > > > > > Cambodia’s government must set up a special team for investigating > > > > each Khmer Krom immigrant who has arrived to settle in Cambodia, in > > > > close relation with VN government to check their previous back ground > > > > and home’s country activities. If crimes were found, individuals must > > > > be sent back to their home country for serving prison terms. > > > > > Neak Kampuchea.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. 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