Dear Chetrasena, My post to which you reply deals only with (1) Sam Rainsy, and (2) choosing the government of Cambodia is the business of the Cambodian people in Cambodia alone.
Ok, as for you being a devout Buddhist, good for you. For me, I've never claimed to be a devout Buddhist, but I've neen defending Buddhism and Cambodian Buddhism wherever it's intruded or attacked and that I'm aware of, including here in CamDisk. I guess that's because I'm a Buddhist who was born and grew up in a Buddhist society and therefore I have a sentimental mindset with Buddhism and thus I have to defend it. Just one point: the historical Buddha said you don't have to follow everything he said. Thus to defend his Buddhism, you don't have to be always non-revegeful and always non-violent. Of course war can never be good, but sometimes it's necessary, and for defenders, it's always necessary. There's also the cold war, meaning verbal fighting, between the Buddhist defenders and the Christian invaders, in Cambodia and elsewhere. In South Korea, now there are more Christians than Buddhists. Perhaps the Buddhists there are too passive and don't engage in fighting against the Christian invaders. If the Buddhists there continue to be passive, Buddhism will disappear from South Korea. If the Buddhists in the world continue to be passive, Buddhism will disappear from the world. As for my question about Sam Rainsy, I didn't ask where he was during the genocide, I asked what he did during the genocide. Because of course everyone already knows that he was in France. My question and answer have nothing to do with the CPP. I simply know and said that he lived in luxury in France and did nothing regarding the genocide. I said nothing else. As for the CPP members being former Khmer Rouge, of course some of them were. However, these former Khmer Rouge, including Hun Sen, opposed the genocide as thought out and carried out by your pals Pol Pot, Ieng Sary, Khieu Samphorn, etc. Pol Pot & Co therefore tried to kill them, so they had to flee to Vietnam for their lives. Then, what happened next is known by everybody in the world, including you I hope. If Hun Sen etc hadn'tt asked Vietnam to destroy the Khmer Rouge, the Khmer Rouge would have brought the Cambodian race to extinction by now. True of false?? On Jul 24, 5:35 pm, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > PKV: As devoted Buddist believer, hatred , revenge and violence are > evil's mantra. I praised only peace and loving and tolerance to every > human kind whether you are my fried or foe. Answering to your question > where was Sam Raingsy during the KR regime ? This question was > established > by CPP main creator for the purpose of propaganda that no one in the > world who save Cambodian's life from Pol Pot .Another slogan of CPP > "You ar an animal if you do not recognize the Prampi Makara.This > question and this slogan are recited and expressed voluntary by CPP > cadre.Kim Vong, majority of CPP' s leaders were ex-khmer rouge, their > hand was soaked by khmer blood, that why now they are trying to wash > out their past crime by building temple and performing other religious > ritual to compensate their crime.Remember there is no trade off > between the Bab(bad merit) and Bon (Good merit). I bet you ask every > one of your CPP leader let them swear to the death by asking him or > her what was their involvement during the KR regime, how many people > were killed by them ?They can lie or deny for their past crime, but > they cannot lie for him or herself, they know what they did.For > instance, Lok Hor Nam Hong tried to protest against US government over > the allegation that Cambodian Foreign Minister was a Khmer Rouge Chief > prison of Beung Trabek. He did won case against Former King Norodom > Sihanouk, because the king has no witness, the he won a case against > Sam Raingsy in the lower court in France, but was over turned by > France Superior Court. I do not know why lok Hor Nam Hong is trying to > mitigate this allegation, American has it own intelligece, the more he > challenge with US, the case will be scrutinized by public. > On Jul 24, 7:33 am, Pheng Kim Ving <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What did Mr Sam Rainsy do during the genocide?? Many non-Cambodian > > politicians, including American Senator McGovern, declared to the > > world that the Khmer Rouge were mass-murdering the Cambodian people > > and asked the world to stop it. What did Mr Sam Rainsy do?? He lived > > in luxury in France and did nothing regarding the genocide. And now he > > wants to be prime minister of Cambodia. For this purpose he's been > > using childish ridiculous tactics. The Cambodian people in Cambodia > > aren't too dumb to realize his behavior. > > > That you hate Mr Hun Sen for whatever reason is your business. > > However, choosing the government of Cambodia is the business of the > > Cambodian people in Cambodia, and the business of the Cambodian people > > in Cambodia alone. Of course they know better than anyone else who > > doesn't live in Cambodia what's best for them and for their country. > > > On Jul 23, 3:57 pm, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Lok Bun Heang. Personally I have a great respect toward lok Raingsy, a > > > man has a good heart, but not smart in politic. He gave up his luxery > > > life > > > and career as Investment Banker from Paris to rescue his country from > > > the quagmire of evil communism and invader.He has no good team works > > > he worked with most of people appointed by CPP and he trusted them, > > > because of the money, he knew his crusade of toppling Hun Sen was > > > impossible without money and other means.He does not want any advise, > > > nor calling all khmer people to rally with him against dictator, > > > especially khmer intellectuals who know how to run business, he > > > strongly relied on his own club and his inner circle and those guys > > > are the main > > > obstacle to have his party growing and expanding, that why we see lots > > > of defection from his party to another, the defection was a product of > > > man made from his own party.Lok Raingsy is 60 now how long it will > > > take him to achieve his dream to become a Prime Minister in the > > > trouble kingdom? I hope one day Khmer will a have one good leader to > > > lead his own people and build his country to be prosperous like other > > > countries around the globe then I can close my eye and rest peacefully > > > after last day of my life. > > > I* > > > On Jul 22, 11:15 pm, "sacrava" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I 'm second with Lauk Chetrasena. > > > > Rainsy listens only to himself. > > > > On the top of his head what's himself. > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ung Bun Heang > > > > > > Father like a son, his father Lok Sam Sary was living an exile, mostly > > > > > in Bangkok, he was accused by former king as traitor by comparing Sam > > > > > Sary as dog.While living an exile he did not fully participate with > > > > > movement of Khmer Serei under auspice of Sarith/ Thanat Khoman > > > > > military dictators or even Khmer Serei with Lok Song Ngoc Thanh. Lok > > > > > Sam Sary was cruising around from Bangkok to Saigon or Vieng Chan, > > > > > later on he disappeared. By blood lok Raingsy is a. royalist, but his > > > > > is not a good Amart like his father-in-law Nhek Tioulong.He love to be > > > > > a one man show, he does not need from his own people to help him, > > > > > instead looking assistance from other nations to restore him as > > > > > opposition.He has no match to Ang sung Sui Yi of Burma or other > > > > > popular opposition figure around the world. As Joseph Brinkley quoted > > > > > Lok Raingsy has only one friend with 9 enemies among the 10 in > > > > > Cambodia.By all means, lok Raingsy is not an alternate leader for > > > > > Cambodian.He is individualistic person > > > > > hating working as collectivistic with others with more rhetoric less > > > > > enthousiatic listening from others. This is his political failure.I > > > > > hope he should retake management course 101.He is credited as > > > > > nationalist, daring to attack HUn Sen and other CPP leaders, he spoke > > > > > from his heart about > > > > > on going corruption and molestation of other countries to Cambodia, > > > > > but not enough he need to do more to rally his own Cambodians to > > > > > support his cause not to learn revolution from Tunesia or Arabia or > > > > > lean to much to Farang people in Europe, they have their own problem. > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2:48 pm, James Sok <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Please read attachment in Khmer. > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> James > > > > > >> Hun_Sen_n_Revolution_072211.pdf > > > > >> 116KViewDownload > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups > > > > > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > > > > > This is an unmoderated forum. 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