At 11:09 pm -0500 21/12/04, Mike Pinkerton wrote:
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For these reasons, it had to go. It is an old argument. People have said to me "I must have the sidebar, you lost me as a user". That's nice, drive through. The solution isn't easy. Maybe a standalone window might be a good option. That's a future extension that i'm kicking around in the back of my head.
I never really use bookmarks much myself -- such things as I visit on the web are usually of such fleeting interest to me that the thought of managing an accumulated list of things that have held my interest for a time leaves me cold -- so I've never really taken much notice of Camino's Bookmark Manager. Just recently, though, I've had occasion to use it once or twice and I would like to point out one feature that it has that currently makes its use less than intuitive.
As it stands (2004122908 (v0.8+)), when invoked, the Bookmark Manager takes over the entire currently active Camino window. This means that when using Camino in tabbed mode (i.e. with more than one active tab) the BM content replaces not only the currently viewed web page but also the row of tabs. The result is that the user gets the impression that the BM has opened in a new window.
Personally, I find it is not intuitive to use the same operation as got me here (click on Bookmarks icon, or toggle Bookmarks | Show/Hide All Bookmarks) to reverse the operation when the operation gives the impression that it opened a new window. Consequently, I find that I usually dismiss the entire Camino window without thinking about it when I've finished with the Bookmark Manager -- only to curse roundly when I discover that this lost me my entire opened tab-set.
I would suggest the following changes need to be considered here:
1. Either the BM should open cleanly in a separate window, or a new tab
OR
2. It needs to indicate far more clearly that it has put the browser into some new "mode"--perhaps hide most things in the toolbar except Back and Bookmarks, for instance? At the very least, the Bookmarks icon should indicate its 'latched' state so that it becomes visually obvious that releasing it will restore the browser to its previous state.
Just my tuppen'orth :)
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