If you want the old behavior back (tab to all form controls, but not links) you can add the following line to ~/Library/Application Support/Camino/user.js (create it if it doesn't exist already):

user_pref("accessibility.tabfocus", 3);

Then save the file, and restart Camino. This is, of course, if you feel comfortable editing the file (it's not too difficult to revert if something goes wrong, though).

Personally, I'd like a UI item for this too, but I'm glad that there's still some way to get this behavior back.

Re: RSS: probably not.

Re: memory usage: compare it with other browsers, and check to see whether you're looking at virtual or real memory size. I personally don't think 88 MB is that terrible; at least, it's never impacted my use of it that I can remember.

On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 13:43 US/Central, Brian Evans wrote:

This is correct Simon. The last build that didn't require this was 011905. Now having turned on Full Keyboard Access it is working again to tab to a popup menu and simply type the first couple letters of an item and then hit return.

The one downside to this however is that it tabs to all links as Simon indicates, which is a pain. I use a Powerbook almost 90% of the time without a mouse and rely solely on the keyboard and no trackpad as it's just plain faster. If it's possible to implement a Preference to have it only tab to all controls except links, that would be optimal.

Two other quick questions/concerns, is Camino going to have RSS builds soon? And then secondly, I've noticed Camino using up to 88MB RAM at times, is this appropriate or no?

Brian

On Jan 25, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Simon Fraser wrote:

First, I think that Brian Evans was talking about tabbing to popup menus and typing the first few characters of an item to select it.

The behaviour in current (i.e. 1/24 and later) builds is this:

With Full Keyboard Access (in the Mouse & Keyboard System Prefs panel) off, you can only tab to text fields.

With Full Keyboard Access on, you can tab to all controls, and links. Note that some bugs prevent us from displaying keyboard focus for buttons, so don't be surprised if the focus appears to disappear on buttons..

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