Right. That's not a bad idea.

I've seen multi-row tabs for overflow. Ancient versions of Netbeans (3.X) did this. It was pretty horrible over all. There were some positive points, in the sense of being able to learn the position of tabs for windows that were open for a long time, but overall, it was confusing.

Current Netbeans, 4.X and 5.X *always* have a dropdown menu of all open files on the right side of the window. It doesn't wait for the tab bar to overflow, it just always shows the menu, which has the advantage (as the menu is alphabetically sorted) that it's very predictable. Of course, editing source code is different from browser tabs. 50 browser tabs open would be exceptional. 50 source files in a middling number to have open, and alphabetic sorting of source code makes sense, whereas browser tabs probably need to be time ordered in the menu.

Smooth scroll would be good. Current Netbeans scrolls 1 tab at a time, which is way to slow and jerky. I like David's idea.


On Jun 14, 2006, at 12:56 PM, David Siegel wrote:

I think a great solution here consists in a compromise between grouping tabs by rows and and using drop-down menus to access individual tabs. Adding rows of tabs is appealing because it lets us see many tabs easily at once, without having to click on rinky- dinky menus on the periphery; however, users have come to expect off-window UI access to come from such rinky-dinky menus. I propose that when tabs overflow the window width, we add arrows to the left and right edges of the tab bar, allowing a smooth scroll of either half of the bar or the entire bar of tabs, bringing offscreen tabs onscreen and vice versa. See Dashboard's widget tray for an example - when you have more widgets than can fit on your screen, you get those arrows that scroll the entire widget tray in a smooth motion.

David


On Jun 13, 2006, at 9:40 AM, Michael Watson wrote:

Can't agree more with this. Two rows of tabs is ridiculously clunky and not like anything else in the OS that I can think of, except crappy X11 apps.

For those who want to set Camino apart from said browser:

The drop-down arrow also did not originate with Safari, recall that the toolbar itself started this convention, with an identical UI widget for accessing additional toolbar buttons when the window isn't wide enough. (See Preview for an easy example.)


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On 12 Jun, 2006, at 20:44, Adam Randall wrote:

From an HIG standpoint, I don't think that makes sense. You'd have to have a new bookmark "bar" for each line, and it'd get kind of weird looking. The whole idea of a "tab" would probably have to be reworked so it didn't look like a "tab" and probably more of a bookmark like thing.

As for the drop-down at the right, that's a standard across the OS, including Safari.

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