Bruce:

interesting link!

> It is. Camino uses the order of languages you have specified in the
> International Preferences pane to send the accept-language HTTP
> header, which is how sites should determine which language to return.
> You can see the accept-language header your browser is sending by
> visiting a page like http://gemal.dk/browserspy/accept.php. Camino no
> longer uses the regional or location settings to determine anything
> about language.
>
> There is a known bug in some web servers (especially .NET based ones)
> that don't properly cope with some combinations of generic English

(Can anyone cope with the number of English variants these days?)

> and dialect-English (e.g. "Canadian English") correctly. We fixed
> this on the branch recently, see bug 300905.
>
> The best advice for your accept language headers (if English is your
> first language) is:
> - Make your preferred version of English (probably "Canadian
> English") your top setting
> - Make generic "English" your next language
> - List other languages you speak in declining order of fluency
> - Delete any languages you have no hope of speaking
>
I did that. I do remember that but, I believe other people have had a
similar problem with the wrong language appearing. I'm trying to dig
back and remember where it was ... I believe it was something to do
with help files appearing in the wrong language but the application
was not Camino.

> Note that we have had some problems with sites setting a language
> cookie based on the wrong language, and then the language always
> being wrong even after people correct their settings. This doesn't
> sound like what's happening to you, but it may be worth deleting
> cookies from the site first just to be sure.
>
> > I guess I'm just lucky that I wasn't getting documentation alternating
> > in English, Spanish, Dutch etc... :)

Well! Apparently, Im asking for U.S. English with no text encoding
specified at all. No matter what I'm doing I always choose Unicode
options, but it seems this is what I'm sending:

Your browser accepts    text/html application/xhtml+xml;q=0.9
application/xml;q=0.8 */*;q=0.7
Charsets accepted       None detected!
Encodings accepted      gzip deflate
Languages accepted      en-US en;q=0.5

This whole language issue and system defaults is frustrating, because
I can never choose per application how certain measurements are
displayed. The latest one is  Neo Office which displays line spacing
in metric, when I want to see in in points -- probably related to my
system settings. So, from the information from your link; I gather my
browser is telling web servers something quite different that what I
would like it to send.

One other interesting thing; I was recently installing Tiger for
someone; when I chose the location for time zones, the only Vancouver
which was available to choose was Vancouver, Washington. Vancouver,
British Columbia did not appear on the time zone map until I chose
Unicode as the text encoding system.

>
> That probably means the site doesn't have translations available in
> those languages. (On the server its possible (at least in theory) to
> have several languages and to tag these with the quality of their
> translation; the server should then send the language that has the
> best combination of "quality of translation" and "fluency of user".)
>
> I hope that helps. If it doesn't try posting your accept-language
> header (see above) and see if other people can reproduce.

Yes, Stuart seems to have been able to reproduce it. And I have
noticed that the problem appears when I've been navigating around in
the documentation (I do that a lot!). Eventually, a few pages appeared
in Spanish.

They are still building the documentation, English is done (almost)
French is well underway, and Dutch will be there because the
developers on from the Netherlands. So I'm stuck finding a way to
report a bug which I cannot tell them exactly how to reproduce! I
should have taken a screen shot when it was displaying both English
and French side by side!

Cheers,
David


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