On 12/06/2011 06:24 PM, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
Dear OCaml hackers,

I'm very uneasy about the current opinions that are voiced on the
caml-list. I have good reasons to think I'm not the only one in that
situation, so please allow me to raise a few concerns about some recent
discussions.

I join you.

= Improving the community =
I think the main point of the discussion is to improve "the community".
If we really want to improve OCaml as a whole, then I think we can put
our efforts on better areas than patching the compiler.

1°)
According to me, enlarging the user base is the root solution to this.
We need more tiny-to-small projects (they woul more look like code snippets) in Ocaml.

2°)
There is a need for "common type" web apps in Ocaml:
- a CMS (as Drupal, Joomla,...)
- a Redmine-like
- a blog hosting, just like Wordpress
- ..

3°)
There need to be an Ocaml application that has a link with a need in web development:
- an Ocaml thing better than Sonar http://www.sonarsource.org/
- http://goo.gl/Oq6ew


== Package management system ==
The thing that's most needed is, imho, a package manager that works.

That works and ease packaging for OS package manager: it should be easy to build RPMs, .deb, so that it's easy to upgrade for system administrators in production environments and easy to get _exposed_ in the system package management tool.

= Conclusion =
This is indeed a long rant, but I'd like to see us being more practical
and down-to-earth. I love OCaml. I think we can do better for the language.

I'm on the way of creating a computer science institute of my view and the goal is to teach Ocaml, and produce OCaml code. We'll see how it works :-).


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RMA.


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