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* Daylight saving - 10 new
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* C function call cost. - 6 new
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* K and R & Fuehrerschaft - 5 new
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* Tips on gaining proficiency in C - 5 new
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system() doesnt give me the control back .. - 2 new
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... If you were "restarting" this program by-hand, by logging in to this 
machine and typing a command, what would you type? BTW, please read the FAQ 
for this group. ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 1:27 am
2 messages, 2 authors
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K and R & Fuehrerschaft - 5 new
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... ... And 
a candidate for the year for sure. ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 1:38 am
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C function call cost. - 6 new
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... "inline", if I understand it correctly, is a deceptively named modifier 
from the all but abandoned C99 standard, much like "register". What "inline" 
really means is that you guarantee that you will not take the address of that 
function -- and that's all. Good compilers will not take hints from 
programmers in this way about what code is actually inlined or not. Bad 
compilers may take it as a hint about inlining your code but that just reveals
the fact that such compilers don't know how to clone, constant... -   Fri,  
Sep 17 2004 1:50 am
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speed of int vs bool for large matrix - all new
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... It is OT. The only one who can tell which is faster, in practice (i.e., 
in your specific system), is you. Write it both ways, try both. And don't 
forget that the answer you get will apply only to the specific system upon 
which the answer was determined (and may vary even there due to such things as
what else is running on the machine at the same time, etc.). If you don't know
how to profile your code, either using the compiler and other tools, or by 
inserting calls to a timing routine, then you should find out, because clearly
you... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 1:52 am
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Accessing members of array as a different type - all new
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On 17 Sep 2004 00:08:45 GMT ... <snip> Not true. The processor could just 
silently ignore the low bit of the address or do something else even more 
screwy. Crashing is only the nicest way it can fail. <snip> ... This is a 
very good suggestion.... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 1:24 am
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Passing and returning arrays to and from functions - 3 new
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Hello, ... size_t N is not only nicer but even makes most sense when using 
char arrays... :-) ... Spell it out: The actual "permutation function" 
provided by the OP is crap. I reordered the posting and comment on it now: I 
enter with Ctext[]="1111110000"; ... There was never a two in the original 
Ctext. ... I am not sure what this is to mean. I think it should have been 
something along the lines Ctext[i]=Ctext[index-1]; However, this is crap, 
too: Imagine the very simple permutation {3,1,2} working on {'0','0','1'}. 
This gives... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 2:12 am
3 messages, 3 authors
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union access - 3 new
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... In addition to being gratuitously insulting, this doesn't answer the 
question. Presumably the OP knows they are different things, and the question
could be paraphrased as why do the different things exist, why are both needed;
 i.e., what is the difference. And I think other respondants have answered 
that. Perhaps the OP is interested by the observation that, given the rules 
of union access, most of the time a union could be replaced by a struct with 
the same members, and the behaviour would be the same (just some space would 
be... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 2:16 am
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Tips on gaining proficiency in C - 5 new
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... Perhaps the version that is now in print fixes all the known Errata, I'm 
not sure. Be aware that the original 2nd Edition had several significant(?) 
errors, which have been corrected in a separate Errata document. Is there a 
reference in the C-FAQ, perhaps? Available on the web. ... -   Fri,  Sep 
17 2004 2:28 am
5 messages, 4 authors
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#ifdef - all new
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... It may be defined by the user, or somewhere in a header file, or in other 
project files such as "Makefile". If the documentation is any good, it should
tell you what symbols are defined, and where. Often, especially under Unix and
its ilk, compiling software is a two step process: the first step, "configure",
 queries your system and creates one or more header files containing bunches 
of macro definitions representing what kind of system it is; the second step, 
"make", then fires off the actual C compiler, which... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004
3:12 am
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Daylight saving - 10 new
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Is there any way to check whether daylight saving is enabled on a linux 
machine? ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 4:14 am
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Floating point number to binary - all new
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... As usual, you have difficulties engaging your brain... In this particular
case, the result is implementation-defined for *exactly* the same reason it 
is implementation-defined in your suggested method: the representation of 
floating point values itself is implementation-defined. Aliasing any object 
by an array of unsigned char is blessed by the standard, no matter how the 
aliasing is achieved. See 6.5p7 and its footnote. Dan... -   Fri,  Sep 17 
2004 7:07 am
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Q: Type'ing the infamous 'flags' field - 3 new
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... I didn't have to: he always does. Dan... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 7:15 am
3 messages, 2 authors
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variable changed, but i didn't change is. - all new
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... In C89 it's worse than "no need", "%lf" in printf invokes undefined 
behaviour. It's a new feature of C99, for the sake of improving the symmetry 
between scanf and printf conversion specifiers. Dan... -   Fri,  Sep 17 
2004 7:36 am
1 message, 1 author
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need help with input and output files ASAP - all new
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... Huh? How did you derive that from the input text? Never mind. I don't want
to know. ... Figure out how to transform your input text into the required 
output format and write it to a file. I can't help you with the first part but
second part is easy: ... int main(void) { char *file = "outputfile.txt"; 
char *text = "10,0,12345678,9abcdef, 1,1, 5,0"; FILE *out; out = 
fopen(file, "w"); if (out == NULL) { ... fclose(out); return 
EXIT_SUCCESS; ...... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 7:45 am
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Why not 64 bit under 32? - all new
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... Who said it can't? I've spent about one year working with 64-bit code 
under a 32-bit OS. Not to mention Windows NT on Alpha, which is a 32-bit OS 
implemented with 64-bit code. Ditto for certain OpenVMS/Alpha versions. ...
Engage your brain: if it's a 32-bit program, how can the processor guess that 
certain opcodes must not be interpreted as 32-bit opcodes? ... What was your 
C language question? Dan... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 7:52 am
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ping source code - 2 new
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In article , ... Content-Type: text/html [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ (0) $ ... it
was HTML. dave ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 10:03 am
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string & bytes - all new
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... Well, since the OP was trying to write to a std::string, I was assuming C++
 and wrote the code accordingly, but the actual question (what's this garbage 
in the middle of my struct) is applicable to both groups. ... -   Fri,  Sep 
17 2004 10:43 am
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declaring a function only if it isn't already declared - 2 new
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I'm writing a Linux device driver that needs to compile with several different
Linux versions. In my code, I need to reference certain functions by their 
address alone. Something like this: int myfunc(char *x); if (memory_test[x] =
= myfunc) ... In other words, I don't care about the return values or the 
parameters of myfunc(), I just need to reference it. In my case, myfunc() 
isn't a function that I've defined, but it may be declared in a header file 
that I'm including. The problem is that each Linux version has different 
header files for... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 2:28 pm
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Loop Optimization, Array Alignment - 2 new
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... Paul and Pete, Thank you both for your informative responses. Trying to 
do optimization there's just so many things one can play with and try, it 
really helps a non-expert like myself to get clarity on even a few issues, so 
I can focus on others. Regards, -rajeev- ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 3:43 pm
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Embedded systems and C programming - all new
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 Hi, Iam looking for some books which deal with Embedded software as well as C
programming. I was suggested An Embedded software primer - David E Simon by a 
friend. Would like to have your feedback as well as some good book 
suggestions. Thanks, Shalini -- Shalini ... ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 11:
09 am
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[OT?] What is (a) "plunger"? - 2 new
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... In any case, it would seem that Mr. Plauger has attained a certain 
celebrity status if the pronounciation of his name has become an issue. I 
also saw the editorial in CUJ and enjoyed same. In addition, I saw the lead 
article in a recent issue of DDJ, wherein he was awarded by DDJ for his 
contributions. Though my opinion in this regard has little value, I think he 
is to be congratulated! One hopes he finds this new status less than onerous..
. <grin> Fair dinkum, sir!! (ummm... did I get that right? lol!!)... -   
Fri,  Sep 17 2004 6:07 pm
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free() dumps core with a segfault. - all new
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... find, and it is free() that detect errors typedef double Align; union 
header { struct { union header* ptr; ... typedef union header Header; 
static Header base; static Header *freep=NULL; Header *u, *
v; <code> Why is it possible? (u + u->s.size) != v AND (unsigned)(v-u) - u->
s.size == 0 ... -   Fri,  Sep 17 2004 11:26 pm
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linux speaker beep - all new
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G'day, I'm writing a ringtone manager for nokia ringtones and I'd like to be 
able to play the ringtone on the PC speaker. I've had some success in DOS with
turbo C and its sound(), delay() and nosound(). Is there anything similar for 
Linux? I know I can make a simple beep with '\a', but that's not what I need. 
If not, can someone please show me how to do this with the /dev/audio device? .
.. -   Sat,  Sep 18 2004 12:52 am
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