T H E    N O T A R Y   N E W S

Published by Victoria Ring, CNSA
http://www.50statenotary.com
http://www.bankruptcybook.net
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ISSUE 53 � September 25, 2004

IN THIS ISSUE:

** Meeting Minutes
** Annie Mae to Establish Attorney and Notary Service Network
** Emails and Questions From Notaries
** New Companies to Sign Up With
** Rate this Ezine
** Pray for Our Notaries in Florida
** Bible Verse of the Week
** Resource Links for Notary Signing Agents

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MEETING MINUTES

I would like to thank the Annie Mae organization for providing 50 State Notary and The 
Notary News subscribers with the ability to attend two netmeetings this past week. 
What is a netmeeting?  It is a meeting you can attend without leaving your home or 
office. You simply call a telephone number at the meeting time, key in a meeting code 
and immediately you are connected with everyone else attending the meeting.

If you want to experience the visual aspect of the meeting, you will need to be able 
to access the internet while you are on the telephone.  However, you can still attend 
by telephone and participate verbally or just listen in.

The first netmeeting was held on Thursday, September 23 and we had a full house. 
Everyone enjoyed the lively discussion which covered topics from collecting monies 
from non-paying signing companies to working with SwiftViewer and other readers we 
encounter working with edocuments.  One notary told us how to go to http://www.hp.com 
to download the right driver for using these viewers and another notary gave us his 
insight into working for Sign-on-The-X (a company that is very slow in paying notary 
signing agents).

The second netmeeting was held on Friday, September 24.  This discussion was centered 
around the topic of notaries providing bankruptcy petition preparation services to 
attorneys nationwide.  I answered questions from the attending notaries and explained 
how bankruptcy document preparation relates to the notary signing agent job.  The big 
difference is that you do NOT need to leave your home to prepare the bankruptcy forms 
and you deliver them by PDF electronically to the attorney.

ATTEND THE NEXT NETMEETING

The next netmeeting will be held on October 6.  To sign up, do the following:

1.  Go to http://www.anniemae.org/index.cfm?id=10018
2.  Click on MEETING (top of screen)
3.  Click on REGISTER
4.  Type your email address in the box and click on SUBMIT

If you are not a member of AnnieMae you will be taken to a sign-up screen to enter 
your information. It does not cost anything to attend the meeting.

If you are a member of Annie Mae, you will be taken to the page listing the different 
netmeetings.  Click on the REGISTER link beside the netmeeting: Bankruptcy Processing 
Service - by Victoria Ring.  You will receive the telephone number and registration 
code so you can attend the meeting.

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ANNIE MAE TO ESTABLISH ATTORNEY AND NOTARY
SERVICE NETWORK

Gary Drury at Annie Mae <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is in the process of setting up 
another service designed to help notary signing agents make more money.  That service 
is detailed in my new book, How to Start a Bankruptcy Forms Processing Business.

Like most of you, I also started out working as a notary signing agent in the year 
2000 but my income fluctuated so drastically from month-to-month that I knew I had to 
add on additional services in order to provide more stability to my income.  I built 
my signing agent company up to a steady $5,000 per month in income but I became burned 
out doing 2 or 3 signings every day over a long period of time.

This is when the attorney I was working for offered me the opportunity to work from my 
home processing his bankruptcy petitions.  This gave me the idea to market the service 
to other bankruptcy attorneys.  I charged $150 for every Chapter 7 bankruptcy petition 
I drafted for them.  The attorney normally charged the client $1,500 � so the attorney 
still earned 90% of the fee and was happy to save money using my services.

>From the year 2000 to the beginning of 2002, I worked as a notary signing agent as 
>well as processing bankruptcy petitions for the attorneys.  In 2002 I found I was 
>earning more money processing the petitions so I subcontracted out my signing agent 
>jobs.  By the beginning of 2003, I was so busy with the petition business that I had 
>hired five full-time employees to help me and I was working a minimum of 16 hours 
>every day.

My purpose in writing How to Start a Bankruptcy Forms Processing Business is to 
provide notaries with the same opportunities I have had so they can make as much or 
more money than I ever did.  Gary Drury at Annie Mae recognized the potential of this 
service so he and his team are working hard to put together a network.  This network 
will allow an attorney to send out a request. This request is matched with a trained 
bankruptcy forms processor who will draft the petition.  The forms processor will be 
paid electronically by bank draft.  This service is still being developed at the time 
of this writing but Gary hopes to have it ready for testing within 45 days.

In the meantime, you have this window of opportunity to obtain your basic training so 
you can immediately go to work drafting bankruptcy petitions for attorneys.  This 
basic training is provided in my book, How to Start a Bankruptcy Forms Processing 
Service.  Go to http://www.bankruptcybook.net to get your copy today so you will be 
ready to step in and increase your notary income.

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EMAILS AND QUESTIONS FROM NOTARIES

Dear Victoria.  I went out today giving out my business cards to various different 
locations. I decided to go to this mortgage company to let them know that I am an 
independent loan closer.  I find that if you say you are a mobile notary, then they 
seem to not appreciate what you have to offer.  To the point, when I was introducing 
my services, I was told that they use title companies and how would I come into play 
with the transactions.  I asked if they prepared the docs and she stated they did not. 
 She stated that they use title companies to prepare the docs.  She was interested but 
I really didn't have an answer for her.  I felt really stupid!  I told her that there 
is a way to work with mortgage companies with my services and would get back with her. 
 She gave me her card and definitely wants me to contact her again.  What am I 
supposed to say?  How do
I fit in?  Thank you so much for being my mentor!

Also, I wanted to let you know that for a long time I did not go in person to 
introduce myself and services.  I would either make telephone calls, fax or emails.  I 
have found out that if you go in person and drop off your business cards then your 
results are a lot faster.  On Friday morning, I went to several Beneficial Finance 
companies and I got 2 branches that showed a positive reaction.  Several hours later, 
I received a telephone call, offering me a closing which pays $75!  I was really 
getting discouraged about all of this because I have not been getting too many calls 
lately.  Once I would get about 3 or 4 lined up, then 2 or 3 would cancel.  Bummer!  
Thank you again, I am sure glad that I found you on the internet. (JC)

RESPONSE FROM VICTORIA RING

Good for you!  I am glad to see you are making an effort to market your notary 
services.
However, every mortgage company works differently.  Some mortgage companies use title 
companies to prepare the documents, others use signing companies and some prepare 
their own.  If the mortgage company told you that the title company is the one that 
prepares the documents then you need to go to the title company and offer your 
services.  The key is to find out "which" company dispatches out the notary because 
every one will be different.

When you contact the lady at the mortgage company as a follow-up, make sure she 
understands YOUR role in the process.  You take the documents to the borrower�s home 
and have them notarized.  You may want to ask her something like: "When you receive 
the documents back from the title company are they already notarized by the 
borrowers?"  If the answer is "yes" then ask her the name of the title company they 
use for their loans and market to the title company.

In some small communities I have found a few who are not aware the borrower can sign 
documents at their home.  Some borrowers are still going to the mortgage company or 
bank to sign their loan documents and are not aware the "mobile" notary option is 
available. While it is rare to find this situation - the fact exists that in smaller 
towns and communities they are still behind the times. In a situation like this, you 
will need to educate the company (who is responsible for having the documents signed 
by the borrowers) as to the convenience a mobile notary can provide to them as well as 
the borrowers.

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NEW COMPANIES TO SIGN UP WITH

The following new companies were added to the Nationwide Company Directory this past 
week at http://www.50statenotary.com/directory/company_listing06.html

1.   Allbright Notary Services Melbourne
2.   Signatures on the Move
3.   Congressional Title Group
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PRAY FOR OUR NOTARIES IN FLORIDA

At the time this issue of The Notary News is published, Hurricane Jeanne is about to 
hit the east coast of Florida.  I am sure many notaries in our family are being 
evacuated from their homes and some may even lose everything they own, including their 
lives.

The hurricanes have not only hurt the economy in Florida, but the pain goes much 
deeper than that.  I am sure the economy is the last thing on a person�s mind when 
their home is leveled and the area they live in looks like a war zone.

I urge everyone to join in prayer for our family of notaries in Florida today and 
Sunday as well as remembering all the other residents who are enduring a very hard 
time due to the hurricanes that have hit Florida in the past few weeks.
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BIBLE VERSE OF THE WEEK

Hebrews, Chapter 11, Verse 1

�Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.�

Read online at http://www.servantofjesuschrist.com/kjv1611/hebrews/chapter_11.html
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OF INTEREST TO NOTARIES:

Get listed in the Nationwide Notary Directory
http://www.50statenotary.com/directory/order_getlisted.html

BOOK: �How to Start, Operate and Market a Freelance Notary Signing Agent Business� 
ISBN: 1-9761591-0-4
http://www.50statenotary.com/book/index.html

BOOK: �How to Start a Bankruptcy Forms Processing Service�
ISBN:  1-9761591-1-2
http://www.50statenotary.com/bankruptcybook/index.html

FREE: 50 State Notary Desktop Guard Dog
http://www.50statenotary.com/freegift/index.html

Join the National Notary Association
http://www.nationalnotary.org/supplies/index.cfm?referID=A23039

Join the Annie Mae Network
http://www.anniemae.org/index.cfm?id=10018

Locate a Notary: View the Nationwide Notary Directory
http://www.50statenotary.com/directory/index.html

View previous issues of this ezine: The Notary News
http://www.50statenotary.com/ezine/index.html

Jobs for Notary Signing Agents (updated weekly)
http://www.50statenotary.com/directory/company_listing.html

Free Introductory Signing Agent Training Course
http://www.50statenotary.com/training/index.html

My Notary Story � Tips from Experienced NSAs
http://www.50statenotary.com/mystory/index.html

Free Download of the King James Bible
http://www.servantofjesuschrist.com/kjv1611/download.html

Visit Victoria Ring�s other websites
http://www.victoriaringconsulting.com/
http://www.graphicopublishing.com/
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Victoria Ring
Certified Notary and Paralegal
http://www.50statenotary.com
Phone: 614-491-9831, Fax: 614-491-9832

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