> ... as none of us were situated to do without income, a customer is
essential.
That's the reason a marketing person is essential. There will be many
starting points, one of these will be with the first customer.
> Some of us have talked about this before, but the devil is in the details.
Yes, going through the details is basic. For this reason, as long as there
is interest, it's important to keep the discussion going.
Victor
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----- Original Message -----
From: "George Dinwiddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [XP] An Employee Owned XP Enterprise?
>
> Victor,
>
> Some of us have talked about this before, but the devil is in the
> details. It's possible to bootstrap a company without hiring a CEO and
> CFO, but, as none of us were situated to do without income, a customer
> is essential.
>
> - George
>
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 09:49:21AM -0500, Victor wrote:
> >
> > There has been some ranting in this forum about the economic situation
of
> > software services.
> > Is there anything we can actually do about it?
> >
> > The software services industry is making quite a bundle out of us. If
you
> > cannot beat them, join them. I would like to see a show of hands. How
many
> > people would be ready to actively create/join an employee owned
> > not-for-profit corporation. The earnings would be partially invested in
> > expansion, partially in benefits, and what is left distributed to the
> > membership according to some criteria to be developed.
> >
> > We would need a CEO, a CFO, a good lawyer, and an excelent marketing
person.
> > The opertion would be based as much as possible on XP principles, like
> > simplicity, opennes, and cooperation.
> >
> > It will be a learning experience, and we will make errors, but we will
not
> > be the first ones, and we know that it can be done.
> >
> > Because this is a first call, it's purposly generic. The details will
be
> > elaborated by those interested in participating.
> >
> > At this point in time I am only interested in finding out the measure of
> > interest in following up with the idea. If there is enough interest, we
can
> > then discuss the details. Yet, I would like to stress that one of the
> > central conditions of success is to find a good marketing person that's
> > comfortable with the idea. As a population (with a few notable
exceptions),
> > we developers are known for not being especially good in marketing, or
as
> > entrepeneurs. So, this is an aspect that has to be taken very seriously.
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
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