On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:35:19 -0700, J. B. Rainsberger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Luiz Esmiralha wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:25:52 -0500, J. B. Rainsberger
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>>You get what you measure.
> >>>
> >>>The sentence above implies that if you don't measure anything, you get
> >>>nothing at all?
> >>
> >>I think it rather means that if you don't actively measure anything,
> >>then you get whatever the person/team would naturally provide. It's like
> >>the study in Peopleware in which the team that finished its project
> >>earliest was the one not given a deadline.
> >
> > Interesting. Can you see any kind of measurement that doesn't affect
> > the measured subjects as radically like this?
> 
> I don't understand this question.

Let me rephrase. Is there any way to measure non-intrusively? My
feelings are that it is impossible, unless done in secret.

> 
> > What if they don't know they are being measured? I'm not actually
> > suggesting doing it, but would that be an efficient way to provide
> > measurements and not disrupt the current work environment?
> > Or that would make measurements even more meaningless, since there
> > would be no feedback between measuremenst and subjects?
> 
> On the contrary, if the subjects don't know they're being measured, then
> it is more likely that what we observe reflects reality. It would avoid
> the Hawthorn Effect -- the act of being measured causes one to take more
> care in their work, showing a short-term positive change no matter what
> happens.
What are your feelings toward secret measurement? How would you feel
if you were being  measured this way?


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