At 5:16 +0000 12/11/2004, nvrockhounds wrote: > > No, of course I didn't take photos of the Slabs' garbage, trash, >burned out vehicles and RVs; why would I want to do that? > >So we could see this trash.
You didn't ask me to take pics; I've been on and off this list for more than a year, but you didn't ask me to take photos when I. Otherwise, I would have been happy to. Tell you what, next time you're there, you take some pics and upload them to the photos section. You DO have a camera, yes? http://www.slabcity.org/ http://imperialvalleygateway.50megs.com/Cities/SlabCity.htm http://www.polarinertia.com/march03/slabcity.htm http://www.telusplanet.net/public/waters/slabcity.htm http://www.wbcci12.org/desert2001/slab_city1.html http://www.desertdutch.org/slabcity.htm I Googled Slab City before I traveled to there. The above URLs are just a few of the many websites I checked out before heading west to Slab City. One will note that they all paint very rosy pictures of SC, but never mention the downsides: the filthy conditions, the security problems, and the too-many criminals and low-life anti-socials who live there permanently. It very well might be that the conditions I observed were relatively recent or have worsened over the summer. If so, I am sorry for those people who had developed a differing image of the Slabs and had had a good experience there in earlier years. > > John, in my original post, I said that I respect those who are fond >of Slab City. I don't think it's too much to ask for some respect in >return. > >Respect has to be earned. John, I cannot find a single line in any of my posts where I disparaged you or treated you with anything less than full respect. Yet, you continue to heap flames on me. If you are attempting to earn respect, this isn't the way to do it. It seems to me that your attitude is typical of some of those who live permanently at the Slabs and prey upon others. And quite possibly, you don't even respect yourself, let alone other people. > >Further, it very well may be that you haven't visited the Slabs in >some time and it's possible you may not be aware of its present >situation. I have no means to compare today's Slab City with that of >last year or a few years ago since this was my first (and last) visit. >> >So why even mention it? So, you have NOT been to the Slabs recently. Otherwise, you would have so stated. If the filth now at the Slabs is worse than it was in previous years, I hope you won't be disappointed when you return. If it is comparable to previous years, then you'll fit right in. > >24 years in the Army and you didn't learn how to secure your stuff? Not against burglars for whom a locked door or a chained generator just slows them down a little. It's not the same as having 49 others watching out for each other in the same barracks bay nor having unit integrity where barracks or other thieves were harshly dealt with. Maybe the Slabs needs a few blanket parties. >Your attitude and your calling them "low-lifes" didn't get you very >far at the Slabs No, I didn't get that impression until after I had been at the Slabs for a couple days. The low-lifes didn't get very far with me. >, did you know that you are considered a low-life >yourself by the Imperial County Sherrif just for being at the Slabs? I agree - and I didn't like being associated with those who rightly earned the label, so I departed. And many thanks for forwarding and confirming the opinion of the local Sheriff's Dept of which I had only guessed earlier. It seems, John that you are proud of being considered a low-life whether you deserve it or not although from your words presenting your narrow and negative opinion of anyone who disagrees with you that you have fully earned the title. > I am a retired US Marine, last name Beal, just like the street going >through the Slabs, the Mountains to the East were where I helped >train a lot of pilots for Viet Nam, the town of El Centro to the >South is where I helped train 6 teams of Blue Angels, I spent 1581 >days in Viet Nam, everyone of them doing my job. If you had the same attitudes toward other Marines that you have now toward others, I suspect you had velcro on your stripes and didn't get very favorable EERs. But, if you spent that long in RVN, there's little wonder you're having problems controlling your PTSD. >Your generator >wasn't your reason for staying away from the masses, you were. You haven't heard my generator. You'd probably be the first one to complain. I'm an amiable person and get along with most personality types, particularly within Scouting and ham radio, but if someone is bound and determined not to get along with me (like you, John), I just leave them alone and let them go through life as the pariahs they choose to be. As stated before, my new location is largely comprised of other retired professional people and there is no disharmony among us. >I have camped with "Model Citizens", some of the most two-faced >people on the planet! I finished a 6500 mile bicycle ride around >America this Summer, and I camped with low-lifes I guess, because on >my bicycle I was a "low-life" to the "Model Citizens" you mention. If you quack like a duck, waddle like a duck, smell like a duck, and look like a duck, you're probably a duck. John, I suspect you are in fact a textbook example of a low-life, easily identifiable by your anti-social attitudes. And this must make you very proud. >Glad you escaped with your hair, if you had stayed a little longer, >the Canadians would have shown up, who knows what you'd say about >them!LOL Since I've applied for dual citizenship, have spent many wonderful springs, summers, and falls in Labrador (I fly a Labrador flag here in AZ), and have a Canadian callsign, I can safely state that I would have gotten along wondrously with the Canadians. Many thanks to those who sent such positive responses and support offlist. It is unfortunate that the Slabs has evolved to such a derelict condition populated with so many derelict people who live there year round; it had so much potential which, in previous years was apparently realized, but as the forces of anti-socials continue to dominate, it will only get worse. Fortunately, there are dozens or hundreds of other freebie or low-cost long-term RVing areas besides the Slabs where one doesn't have to worry about camping in squalor nor having one's RV broken into nor have to put up with others who make a deliberate effort to alienate their neighbors. Please don't bother responding to this post. I will be delisting myself as soon as this clears Yahoo. I will be switching my interests to the freeboondocking list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeboondocking/ which I understand was created as an alternative to John's negativity and rather irritating anti-social behavior. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/z1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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