I think it's just as likely that people would want to use a data modelling
alternative to ActiveRecord as it is that they'd want to use a templating
language of their choice, so you're already kinda past the point of keeping
out dependencies. Speaking as someone who tried Camping after very little
other web development & programming experience (and learned a lot because
of it), the lack of Markaby in the default gem install seriously held me
back several times.
On Dec 20, 2011 8:08 PM, "Magnus Holm" <judo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 23:24, Jenna Fox <a...@creativepony.com> wrote:
> > I'd like markaby to be a hard dependancy - it's the default, if it isn't
> > installed beginners get terribly confused, and installing one more gem
> > really isn't going to cause problems for people - computers have so much
> > free space these days. If they really (for whatever reason) want to
> refuse
> > markaby's inclusion, they can ask rubygems to bypass dependancies.
>
> ActiveRecord and SQLite is way more intrusive than Markaby/Mab, so I
> guess one little dep isn't that bad. Beside, it would only be loaded
> when you actually try to use it, so you can still use Camping without
> loading Markaby/Mab.
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