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>Mike Stevens wrote:
>> No, that's not quite the situation, as I understand it.  If the cuts had not 
>> happened there would have been some job losses (possibly all the 180, 
>> possibly not) over an extended period of time, achieved mainly by not 
>> replacing people who left from the relevant bits of BW's workforce, withoiut 
>> any actua redundancies.  In other words no actual people would have lost 
>> their jobs (although some might have had to move from on job to another 
>> within the organisation).  As a former TU official, I know that this is 
>> *very* different from making people redundant.
>
>With respect, though, that's not really the main issue for waterway users.
>
>The 180 job losses are deeply regrettable for the people concerned. I know 
>a couple of people who lost their jobs: conversely, one very good friend 
>has taken the opportunity to take voluntary redundancy from BW. So I can 
>clearly see the difference between a fulfilled person leaving on their own 
>terms and a frustrated person unwillingly made redundant.
>
>But the question for us, as users, is whether BW is a better organisation 
>with those 180 _posts_ removed. Does BW function better without (say) 
>two central freight staff, a distinct Birmingham-based unit, a dedicated 
>regeneration director - whoever they may be? Is BW improved by no longer 
>having a heritage person in the waterway unit Chris D mentioned?
>
>My understanding of Robin Evans' comments at the London Boat Show 
>forum was that he believed yes, BW would be a more efficient organisation 
>with the 180 posts removed. I have had a robust "exchange of views" 
>with Eugene today so hopefully he's prepared to step in if the official BW 
>line is in fact different.
>
>cheers
>Richard

Can the system manage with losing more on the ground staff? It isn't just 
office staff that are going and not being replaced.
Sue nb Nackered Navvy 

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