--- In [email protected], Adrian Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "bty465680" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >I use the term 'customers' lightly as we all 'own' the waterways 
as 
> >tax payers and should have our say, but this is no longer possible.
> 
> There is no illogic in being both an owner and a customer at the 
same
> time.  They are different roles, with different rights and
> responsibilities.
> 
> For the system to work it should be difficult to duck 
responsibilities
> but easy to exercise rights.  Unfortunately, at present, IMHO, the
> former is rather too easy, and the latter rather too difficult.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> 
> Adrian Stott
> 07956-299966
>

You are, I suppose technically correct.  I work for a shop, and from 
time to time I do purchase items from the shop (electrical retail).

I do have the same rights as a customer if the product fails and go 
throught the same processes to resolve such situations.  I don't 
think it would go down too well with my employer if I had to complain 
though, but that situation is slightly different as I actually 
participate in the running of the store and have some control myself.

With BW, they should adopt a role of custodians of the Waterways, on 
our behalf, as they are a nationaised concern.  They should provide 
everyone and anyone (as taxpayers) with appropriate access to the 
waterways for a reasonable fee, which could be calculated as a 
proportion of enjoyment obtained.

Every walker, cyclist, fisherman, and of course boater gains 
enjoyment from the use of the canal system when they use it in their 
chosen way, and it should be reasonably easy to calculate how many 
visitors use the waterways and when and how often they use it.

The costs of running the waterways is plainly obtainable, and there 
is much income from waterside properties etc that BW own.  The 
remaining costs should then be shared equally between EVERY user, the 
non-boaters and boaters paying the same per calculated use per hour.

It must not be forgotten that boaters are also tax payers and already 
pay a fair share towards the waterways prior to any licence fee. 

If it is calculated that say 2 million use the canals each week, then 
each tax payer should pay one two millionth of the cost per week 
after the other income has been calculated.  That is EVERY tax payer, 
not just the two million that use it.

If it is found that boaters actually use the canal at an hourly rate 
higher than other users, and I would dispute that they actually do, 
apart from perhaps when asleep, then a licence could be charged 
acordingly.

Moorings would be charged seperately, but not auctioned to the 
highest bidder, but treated as part of the other income and at a rate 
to allow anyone who wants a boat to be able to afford it.  The shiney 
boat brigade would go in to marinas anyway, leaving the on line 
moorings for thoe of us who are forced to survive on lower incomes.  
On line moorings should be encouraged, not dispised, they add to the 
colour and diversity of the waterways, and slow the pace down to a 
level that it used to be.

More slipways should be built and should be available free to all to 
encourage new boaters to prevent the average age of boaters rising.  
Smaller boats should be allocated free or cheaper licences as they 
used to be (it used to be £2 for a day licence, now it's £10).

Just an idea, we all do OWN the waterways, but are treated as the 
worst customers to be exploited as much as possible.

That is my opinion anyway.






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