Steve Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Using price to reduce overstaying is not what BW are suggesting; its the 
>exact opposite: pay and you can stay where you like for as long as you 
>like. The £25 per day overstay charge already exists in lots of 
>locations (ISTR that you said previously all locations in the south 
>actually) and I'm told the rule is largely ignored/unused. We then have 
>the worst of both worlds, overstaying in popular sites and no money 
>generated. Any new policy should be based on penalising overstaying not 
>legitimising it.
>
>A month or so ago I was moored in Wheelock and talking to someone who 
>was quite proud of his ability to overstay in that area. He had recently 
>been contacted by Northwich who said that if he wanted to stay in 
>Wheelock then he would have to pay a charge as it is a nominated winter 
>mooring site. He asked if this guaranteed him a mooring if he moved away 
>and back and they said no. He told them to get stuffed. I can imagine 
>anyone else who is asked to pay without getting a specific mooring would 
>do the same. Also I can imagine it would be pretty near impossible to 
>get someone who has paid off a time restricted mooring.
>
>> I like this idea.
>I think that as a solution to the continuous mooring problem it has not 
>been thought through and is destined to cause more problems than it 
>solves. As a revenue raising exercise it is marginally better but still 
>pretty poor as it's easy to bypass.

I wrote a WW article about this a while back.  The real problem is
that CCs don't pay for moorings.  The average boater (who does have a
long-term mooring) uses the public moorings no more than about 2
months a year.  The CCs use them 12 months a year.  To me, that says
that CCs should be invoiced a mooring charge worth 10/12 of the price
of an annual long-term mooring.  That would make getting a CC licence
much less financially attractive (in comparison to a conventional
licence) than it is now, and should reduce the numbers of them
significantly I think.

However, BW hasn't summoned the fortitude to do this yet.  

But perhaps the roving charge is the first step.  And, after all,
mooring prices vary from region to region.

I agree there is serious under-enforcement with respect to
overstaying, and that the £25/day charge is sadly under-used.  BW says
that applying the charge is unduly expensive, as it has to gather
daily evidence about how long a boat has been moored at the same
"place" in order to levy the charge.  I expect, though, it could find
a way to make this much less expensive if it really wanted to.

However, if such charges were introduced, they would be by way of the
licence system.  If a boat has no licence, BW can get rid of it.  

I agree that the roving mooring permit is not the best long-term
solution.  But I hope it might be better than the current situation.

Adrian
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Adrian Stott
07956-299966

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