Nick wrote:
> Steve Haywood wrote:
<snip>>
> I like the distinction that you make.  The problem is that if you stay
> in one place for 2 weeks, move half a mile, stay for another 2 weeks
> and return, it's hard to see what is either continuous or cruising
>  about it. Or what a "natural progression of the journey is".

I always (maybe I'm wrong) thought that the rule was no more than 14 days in 
one parish per year.

>> To those people I would ask this: do you think we boaters as a group
>> are not paying enough for the facilities we use? Do you think we
>> should pay more? Or is that you think only SOME boaters should pay
>> more?
>
> As I've said before, I'd love for BW to charge everyone something for
> mooring, and to refund the mooring only part of their mooring fees,
> end of the garden mooring fees (all of it in this case) and the
> "connection" charge for boatyards, basins and marinas.  But I know
> very well that the first part would happen and the second not.

Agreed, not a chance of a refund - and *not* all marinas have connection 
fees - which makes it all the more complicated.

> The problems is that we are getting to the stage where legitimate
> cruisers - continuous or not - are finding it impossible to moor in
> some areas because of continuous moorers.  That the latter are paying
> less than many of them are just adds insult to injury.  There's a
> hope that if there was some cost then it might put a number off, or
> encourage them to get cheap "proper" moorings leaving the visitor
> moorings for visitors.   And some extra revenue for BW would be nice
> when they are strapped for cash.  It would be even nicer of course if
> we knew they were going to use it one something more useful than fish
> surveys, bollards and notices.

To stop that, the only way is short term (24 or 48h) limits that are 
policed, with a total yearly limit as well.
What ever "ideal" solution ones dreams up, always comes back to policing - 
which equates to more staff...  unlikely methinks.
I have no moan with any boat that is moored up out in the country causing no 
nuisance to others.

Ron Jones
Process Safety & Development Specialist
Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near misses at
http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and
human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert
Einstein 


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