2008/12/20 Bru Peckett <[email protected]> > > In fact, Ireland as a nation state did not exist when the English (or to be > more precise the Normans) first conquered the country in the 1100's. >
I'll leave the concept of the nation state to others, but I'd take issue that the Angevins (which is the term you're looking for - not Normans!) ever 'conquered' Ireland. What they did was made a series of short term accomodations with whatever locals would deal with them. John was a much better king that the pro-Rome chroniclers would have us believe. His Irish campaigns were pants though. Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
