Interference can come from the stragest sources. My personal example  
came from a Sony integrated surround sound system that when switched  
on knocked 10dB odd the brodbamd signal to noise ratio making any  
connection unsustainable. I only found it by a well engineered process  
of trial and error observing the snr as I switched different bits of  
household kit on and off.

The other giveaway for me was watching it nose-dive at 15:30 when  
Daniel used o get home from scho and switch everything on

-- 
David Morris
[email protected]

On 1 Feb 2010, at 18:16, "wilcox_mike_01" <[email protected]>  
wrote:

>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> > I plug my line from my my modem/router straight into the connector  
> on the
> > inside of the master socket (using the socket exposed when the  
> cover plate
> > is removed.cover plate removed), that's the only way it will work  
> at all.
> > I have disconnected my home wiring from the master socket to see if
> > removing it had any effect (no it didn't).
>
> I thought you said earlier that you normally plugged the router in  
> via an extension (ie the "home wiring"). When you say "that's the  
> only way it will work at all" do you mean during tests today, or  
> that this is how you normally have it plugged in?
>
> > I have a Netgear 'G' wireless router (about two years old)  
> attached by the
> > supplied (by Netgear in the kit) cable to the master socket. My PC  
> thinks
> > that it had a very good (little green screen) wireless link and  
> (usually) a
> > 56 something or other speed - the maximum between it and the  
> router (it
> > does however vary from time to time to lower speeds and a yellow  
> screen). I
> > have tried to use an ethernet connection between the PC and the  
> router to no
> > improved effect. I brought my daughter's PC over and used that both
> > ethernet and wireless to get no improvement.
>
> Kitz reckons that the Netgear DG834 is one that can keep the  
> connection well, even with interference problems.
>
> > What astounds me is that on rare occasions I get all the  
> performance I
> > might reasonably expect being fairly remote from the exchange, ie  
> a stable (
> > for an hour or so at least) link and sub-second responses, I can  
> even listen
> > to music or see a video on You Tube. And then later on the same  
> day or next
> > day response times go out of the window or I can't get on to the  
> internet
> > at all. I find that if I can't get on via AOL I can't usually get  
> Internet
> > Explorer (7) to respond either, but occasionally IE works and  
> sometimes I
> > can log on to AOL from there. When this happens I can see my list of
> > emails, but then I can't open any of them, or be able to connect  
> to any webpages.
>
> This sounds like a classic case of interference. It could be almost  
> anything - from the Ionosphere (remember getting AM transmissions  
> from europe in the evenings?), water in joints in the BT line, or  
> other people turning on their modems.
>
> At least your WiFi part seems to be working fine.
>
> >
> > Does any of this help the diagnosis?
>
> A little, but you are probably going to get numbers on this, so we  
> can see the actual state of the line as far as the router/modem sees  
> it.
>
> Probably the best thing you could do is to leave the modem/router  
> plugged into the test socket at the back of the master, and run a  
> program to monitor the line statistics. If you have the right kind  
> of modem, you might find "RouterStats" useful:
>
> http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/internet/files.htm
>
> The graphs might give you an idea of whether you are suffering from  
> occasional bursts of interference, or whether it is a constant  
> problem.
>
> >
> > If I change ISP what is the likelihood of getting any improvement in
> > reliability or response?
>
> Almost certainly no improvement in reliability. At least not if the  
> phone connection stays with BT, as the problem is probably to do  
> with the line to your house.
>
> You might find another ISP more responsive to your plight than AOL,  
> but I have no experience of whether they are good or bad. I've found  
> that you can get a decent response from PlusNet provided you go via  
> the forum rather than the normal support desk, and even then it can  
> take some perseverance. Especially if BT need to be called out.
>
> > Is someone able to control the bandwidth I can use. I
> > am probably one of the half dozen remotest users from the nearest  
> (Ranskill
> > actually) exchange - I'm I getting what's left over in bandwidth  
> terms after
> > everyone else in the area has had their slice of the cake?
>
> Being remote shouldn't affect your share of the bandwidth from the  
> exchange to the rest of the world.
>
> Your main limitation will probably be that the length of your line  
> leaves your modem syncing to the exchange at a relatively low speed  
> level. Your current problem is *probably* that interference causes  
> the sync to keep dropping, and forcing the mode to resync with the  
> exchange. When the sync goes, your browsing experience will tend to  
> show as pages that fail to load, or downloads that are extremely slow.
>
> There are a few things that BT and your ISP can do to the line to  
> try to make it more reliable, such as turning on interleaving, or  
> increasing the noise margin. Both will tend to make your connection  
> slower - but the exchange has probably already tried these out for  
> you.
>
> Mike
>
> 


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