Hi Wilfried,

Sorry - been running around the country interviewing for positions for
September. That is finally wrapped up tho now I have to move...

I think the rfid is a great idea (sorry I missed your earlier efforts)
- for one thing it could take the place of a nurses notes that they
visited the patient if the system is designed in such a way that it
records the proximity of the patient rfid and the nurses/mds/NPs and
other professionals rfids. A concern however would come in the area of
sensitivity to the location of the rfid and using the rfid for an
automatic logon which could reduce some of the problems of tedium and
time of having screens located at bedside. can the rfid systems
distinguish between standing by the screen and just walking into a
room? the emphasis being on preventing unauthorized access while
minimizing any actions required to specifically enable data entry or
pickup.

now i don't know what the situation is with bar codes where you are but
the failure rate in grocery stores here in the states is extremely low
even given the somewhat lackadaisical attitude of many cashiers - is it
possible that the barcode scanners you are using are just not high
enough quality for these tasks? I have always imagined that vital signs
data entry might be facilitated with barcodes or that we could develop
an easy to remember shorthand for patient assessments that would make
data entry far less cumbersome - certainly doing an optical scanning
form would be easier - the problem is how quickly would the form be
read - here in many places that would be long after clinical utility
had passed... 

bear



--- Wilfried Goedert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello bear,
> 
> i totally agree your ideas that the patient needs the highest
> attentionship and not the computer or PDA.
> 
> So RFID is a suggestion i try to discuss since last autum.
> I didn't saw in the whole discussion since more than a year any
> analysis of different possibilities of proprietary or open source
> systems. Most is done by Dr. Antas.
> 
> RFID will be a point i prepare for the next WISIS United Nations
> conference in Tunis.
> At the moment different interest groups meet every month with
> politicians in Berlin to prepare the conference.
> 
> Inside the next meeting at 17.7. i will try to build up a health
> related interest group.
> 
> The meeting plan in German
> 
> > -----------------------
> > TAGESORDNUNG
> > 1. Begr��ung, Vorstellungsrunde
> > 2. chronologische Berichterstattung -> abzuleitende Ma�nahmen?!
> (learned
> > lessons)
> > 2.1. Auswertung/Einsch�tzung des Wahlverfahrens der
> wkk-Repr�sentanten
> > 2.2. Auswertung/Bericht Vernetzungstreffen Berlin, 13.6.
> > 2.3. (a)Auswertung/Bericht vom Treffen im Goethe-Institut
> >    (b)Auswertung/Bericht von Hammamet PrePrepCom
> >    (c)Auswertung/Bericht von Hammamet PrepCom)
> > 3. strategische Diskussion Deutschland
> > 4. Thematisches Briefing: Digital Solidarity Fund
> > 5. Feedback/update
> > 6. Sonstiges
> > 7. To Do
> > 
> > -----------------------
> > ZEITPLAN
> > 10.30-11 Begr��ung, Vorstellungsrunde
> > 11-12 Auswertung/Einsch�tzung des Wahlverfahrens der
> wkk-Repr�sentanten
> > 12-13 Auswertung/Bericht Vernetzungstreffen Berlin, 13.6.
> > 13-14 Mittagspause
> > 14-15.30 (a)Auswertungen/Berichte Tunesien
> > 15.30-16 strategische Diskussion Deutschland
> > 16-17 Thematisches Briefing
> > 17-17.30 Feedback/update, Sonstiges, To Do
> > 
> > -----------------------
> > 
> 
> I hope that i can initiate also a meeting in Stuttgart this year,
> because for health related interest group and Open Source there will
> be support from politicians of the European parliament from different
> parties of this area too.
> 
> I still be in hope that we have in the nearest future a ethic group
> initiated for care2x. I personally see a high relevance because of
> the
> possible missuse of RFID.
> 
> you wrote:
> 
>  asks to validate
> b> that the nurse wants to turn their attention to the patient in
> that
> b> room. This could be done with an RFID I assume. 
> 
> 
> Wilfried Goedert
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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