Hi, > Perhaps even a better way to start would be to take a look at the > free/open source/freely downloadable book from Karl Fogel's "Producing > Open Source Software" (available at: > http://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.pdf)
Thanks, nice hint. > I would start by reading chapters 6 and 7 of that book. I am sure that > you will be able to immediately find a lot of easy and very useful > changes to make. > > About Care2x code: > > 1. Making Care2x always run in the current stable version of Apache, > MySQl/PostgreSQl and PHP should be among the first priorities; That is, according to my information given. If not, then it's not a headache. Or what do you exactly mean? > 2. Have a clear Howto install Care2x from bare metal (either windows or > linux): > > - Either you will be using it for serious day-to-day patient > management and in that case you need to know (or have access to someone > who knows) how to properly install a running Care2x Server. Can you explain that more precisely? > - Or you just found Care2x and are searching for a quick way to check > it and, in that case, you have the live demo. In that case you should > not deserve too much time from the developers community. Care2x is not a > Game or a computer utility that one installs over the knee just to take > a quick look and play a little before and abandoning it to the next "mew > thing". > > - So, please, no Care2x installations over Xampp or its cousins. For > serious clinical usage, do you seriously think that it will substitute > the rock solid foundation of a a properly installed support stack > (Apache-Dbms-PHP) over a properly configured server? Care2x does not comes with xampp "or it's cousins". The issue is that on the one hand you should be able to install a linux based system, or you can use a preconfigured xampp. In case you have IT department, there is no reason to use xampp. In case you don't have, why not? > > A couple of sugestions: > > 1. Now that it has become a child's play to install Ubuntu Linux either > by itself, or on a dual boot machine, or even inside a windows partition, > let's reduce Care2x environment variability (installation, support, > maintenance) and agree that the standard Care2x Developers Installation > should be made over, for instance, Ubuntu 8.04 Do you mean that it should be available via apt-get? > > 2. Let's start reducing Care2x code complexity. In some ways Care2x has > grown beyond manageability: > - We have AdoDB to make it work with a lot of DBMS but most of the time > ended up installed it just to work over MySql or PostgreSql Yes, but that's not the once and only reason to use adoDB. It's also a question of speed. adoDB is faster and has some nice features for developers (debugging). I would not say that a native mysql connection would be a better way. Alternative we could think about the way how ZF is using it, but that would be a completely restart of the project. (It does not fit how the sql queries are used now) > - We have now Smarty templating just to end with more complex code to > make almost the same that was done before with the more simpler project > code Forget smarty. It's worse. It's a nice template engine when there is a need of template engines. But care2x does not need precompiled pages. Especially under linux it makes sometimes really nice results if you do not have writing permissions set on the smarty destinated folders. Okay, it's given now, and we can use it. But I do not think that this will help to continue for that project. Almost we do not have more than 200 users at the same time on care2x working. > - and the list goes on... making it so complex that now nobody is able > to understand it enough to be able to change a few lines of code and > commit it to the CVS. I would say that it is not as complex as you describe it here. But if you want to add a new module then you should think how the given classes are working that your code will fit to the survey. > > 3. It is obvious that it is unnecessarily hard to commit changes to the > present code tree CVS. That was the problem of many other software > projects. That was the main reason why many of them changed from > sourceforge to google code, launchpad, or some other platforms. Actually SVN is even better than CVS.. but: > > It is obvious that a DISTRIBUTED CVS would, in 2008, serve much better > the Care2x project: we have groups in Africa committing to themselves, > we have groups in Latin America committing to themselves, we have groups > in Germany committing to themselves, we see a loot of emails with code > snippets and bug reports that never appear in the Care2x's FAQ, or CVS > , or Wiki. ...CVS is working faster for smaller internet connections. That's for East Africa the once and only reason. Nothing else. But the East African sources are also mirrowed to the SF SVN. > All these people cannot be wrong, and if they are not wrong than there > must be anything keeping them from doing the "proper" thing, i.e., > reporting the bugs at the bugs page, committing code and patches to the > code and patches page, looking for answers for common problems at the > FAQ's page. Time has proven that sourceforge has not been good at > supporting these activities. It is unnecessarily complex. It is not user > friendly. Far from being a place to keep the Care2x community united, it > has been a source of frustration. Could be. Do you have any suggestion? Robert > > > Best regards, > > M. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Care2002-developers mailing list > Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
