Hi Donna,
I'm actually drawing on the fiducial surface, so I choose 3D and closed.
I check 'assign paint identifiers to nodes within border'
And name the paint column Sul
I don't check reassign nodes with because I don't know what this is for.

Also, how and when do I run the script for adding the hem flag to the spec file?
Thanks,
Alex

Alex Fornito
M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
The University of Melbourne
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Donna Hanlon
Sent: Tue 14/02/2006 9:19 AM
To: Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users
Subject: Re: [caret-users] Viewing ROIs
 
On 02/13/2006 03:37 PM, Fornito, Alexander wrote:

>Ok,
>I had a look under attributes and I saw the ROI I created, so I assume this is 
>correct.
>I tried to create a new ROi under the attributes > area color tab named ???. 
>This got rid of the > WARNING: Paint names with no corresponding area 
>colors:??? in the shell  but it  highlighted the rest of the brain (outside 
>the ROI).I could still not visualize my ROI.
>  
>
It's safe to just ignore this warning:

Paint names with no corresponding area colors:???

>I've also noticed that in cases where  I can visualize the ROI, only exposed 
>nodes are highlihted; nodes in the sulcal depths are not highlighted.
>  
>
Let's clarify your Draw Borders settings:

Type: closed
Dimension: 2D (i.e., you're drawing on a flat map)
Closed border assignment:
Surfaces Nodes:
Assign Paint Identifiers to nodes within border checkbox is selected
Paint Column: -- what are you using here?
Reassign nodes with -- is this checked, and if so, what is selected?

>I created my surfaces using the command line utlity.Maybe I've done something 
>wrong? My commands are below.
>I've also noticed that alothough my left surface comes up in the correct 
>orientation, Caret confuses the medial and lateral surfaces for my right 
>hemispheres; when I press L it takes me to the medial view, and when I press M 
>it takes me to the lateral view. All other viewing conrtols seem to be correct.
>  
>
Adding a line like this to your spec file will solve this problem:

hem_flag right

>LEFT:
>
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_file_convert -sc -is FSS lh.white.asc -os CARET 
>1000001.lh.white.coord 1000001.lh.closed.topo RAW CLOSED -spec 1000001.lh.spec 
>-hem LEFT
>  
>
This looks good, except I have been using "left" instead of "LEFT"; 
also, I'm using smoothwm instead of white, but I don't have a strong 
preference on this.

>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_file_convert -sc -is FSS lh.pial.asc -os CARET 
>1000001.lh.pial.coord 1000001.lh.closed.topo RAW CLOSED -spec 1000001.lh.spec 
>-hem LEFT
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-average 1000001.lh.FIDUCIAL.coord 
>1000001.lh.white.coord 1000001.lh.pial.coord
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -volume-create 256 256 256 -128 -128 -128 1 
>1 1 RIA 1000001_segvol.hdr
>  
>
I need to check with John Harwell on this; I'm guessing the origin is a 
coordinate -- not a voxel index.  I'm trying to get clarification from 
some folks on the AFNI message board:

http://afni.nimh.nih.gov/afni/community/board/read.php?f=1&i=9128&t=9128

But this should get you in the ballpark.

>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-to-segmentation-volume 
>1000001.lh.FIDUCIAL.coord 1000001.lh.closed.topo 1000001_segvol.hdr
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-identify-sulci 1000001.lh.spec 
>left 1000001_segvol.hdr 1000001.lh.closed.topo 1000001.lh.FIDUCIAL.coord 
>1000001.lh.FIDUCIAL.coord
>
>RIGHT:
>
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_file_convert -sc -is FSS rh.white.asc -os CARET 
>1000001.rh.white.coord 1000001.rh.closed.topo RAW CLOSED -spec 1000001.rh.spec 
>-hem RIGHT
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_file_convert -sc -is FSS rh.pial.asc -os CARET 
>1000001.rh.pial.coord 1000001.rh.closed.topo RAW CLOSED -spec 1000001.rh.spec 
>-hem RIGHT
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-average 1000001.rh.FIDUCIAL.coord 
>1000001.rh.white.coord 1000001.rh.pial.coord
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -volume-create 256 256 256 -128 -128 -128 1 
>1 1 RIA 1000001_segvol.hdr
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-to-segmentation-volume 
>1000001.rh.FIDUCIAL.coord 1000001.rh.closed.topo 1000001_segvol.hdr
>/usr/local/caret/bin/caret_command -surface-identify-sulci 1000001.rh.spec 
>right 1000001_segvol.hdr 1000001.rh.closed.topo 1000001.rh.FIDUCIAL.coord 
>1000001.rh.FIDUCIAL.coord
>
>
>Alex Fornito
>M.Psych/PhD (clin. neuro.) candidate
>Melbourne Neuropsychiatry Centre and Department of Psychology
>The University of Melbourne
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Harwell
>Sent: Tue 14/02/2006 5:43 AM
>To: Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users
>Subject: Re: [caret-users] Viewing ROIs
> 
>
>On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Fornito, Alexander wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>I seem to be able to view manually drawn ROIs with variable  
>>consistency, and its causing me a bit of confusion.
>>For example, in the right hemisphere of one of my subjects, I draw  
>>the ROI using Layers>Borders>Draw Border.
>>I then save the area color file and paint file, and when I check  
>>the paint row in the D/C, I can see the ROI I drew.
>>If I repeat this process in the left hemisphere, I can't see it and  
>>the shell I'm running Caret from returns the message:
>>
>>WARNING: Paint names with no corresponding area colors:
>>   ???
>>
>>I'm not sure why the same process would work for one hemisphere and  
>>not the other. Note this also happens if I exit Caret and try to re- 
>>load the area color and paint files.
>>Any help is much appreciated.
>>Thanks,
>>Alex
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Alex,
>
>When you assign a paint area, nodes that have not been identified by  
>the user are given the name "???" which implies that the nodes'  
>identities are unknown.  The WARNING message is produced because  
>there is no color available for nodes with identity "???".  You can  
>eliminate this message by adding a color for "???" by selecting Edit   
>from the Attributes:Area Colors menu.  The lack of a color for "???"  
>should not affect the drawing of ROIs.
>
>On the Surface:Region of Interest Dialog, make sure that you see  
>nodes appear in green after pressing the Select Nodes pushbutton to  
>select your region.  When assigning the paint identifier, be sure to  
>provide a name for the nodes before pressing the Assign pushbutton.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------
>John Harwell
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>314-362-3467
>
>Department of Anatomy and Neurobiology
>Washington University School of Medicine
>660 S. Euclid Ave.    Box 8108
>St. Louis, MO 63110   USA
>
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