Hi Pedro,

I have zero expericence with EEG, so I don't know what would be best for that application.

I don't need to find a transformation between surfaces having corresponding landmarks, I need to obtain the corresponding landmarks.
But until you register surface A to surface B (or both A and B to C), there is no way to establish correspondence between a landmark on surface A and the corresponding location on surface B. Registration builds that bridge.

Caret uses landmarks to drive registration, and there is no command line method for identifying them yet. You must draw them for each hemisphere. There are other surface-based registration methods that require less/no user input, e.g. FreeSurfer:

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

It might be possible to jump into the processing stream with already generated surfaces, but my hunch is that you'll need to put your T1s through the full pipeline. With 237 scans, I hope you have a lot of CPU power.

Donna

On 06/20/2007 09:30 AM, Pedro A. Valdes Hernandez wrote:
Dear Donna: I'm interested in the surface commonly used for EEG problems. I have 237 T1 MRIs and I'd like to have an automatic command line script to obtain those mean WM-pial surface (if this is the propper surface for my application) and I'd like to have corresponding points between those surfaces. I don't need to find a transformation between surfaces having corresponding landmarks, I need to obtain the corresponding landmarks. Can you help me to understand what software should I download, what should I run and do?
Any help will be very appreciated
Thank you in advance
Pedro

On 6/20/07, *Donna Dierker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Hi Pedro,

    Yes -- Caret does surface-based registration, as described in the
    registration tutorial:

    http://brainmap.wustl.edu/caret/pdf/Caret_5.5_Tutorial_Segment.pdf

    If these two surfaces are from the same subject, then the core 6
    landmarks (the set typically recommended for inter-subject
    registration)
    will not achieve optimal registration; in that case, additional
    landmarks (e.g., STS, POS -- as many as you can reliably identify
    across
    timepoints) are recommended.

    For each surface, you'll need to use Surface: Geometry: Generate
    inflated and ellipsoid from fiducial, to generate inputs the above
    tutorial expects.  You might also consider trying John's new
    method for
    registration without flattening:

    
http://brainmap.wustl.edu/pub/donna/PUBS/Reg_no_flat_and_new_border_drawing.pdf
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    password download

    I haven't tried it myself yet.  I'm not sure whether your Caret
    version
    will include all the features you need to try this.

    Finally, we tend to use the midthickness (fiducial) surface,
    rather than
    the WM/GM surface.  We generate a midthickness surface by averaging
    coordinates of Freesurfer-generated [lr]h.white and [lr]h.pial
    surfaces.

    Donna

    On 06/19/2007 04:48 PM, Pedro A. Valdes Hernandez wrote:
    > Hi:
    > I' completely new in this mailing list so maybe my question is a
    > little bit foolish
    >
    > I have two triangulated WM/GM surfaces, I'd like to know if I
    can find
    > corresponding anatomical points between them using CARET/SureFit...
    >
    >
    > Thank you in advance
    > Pedro
    >
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