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On 07/12/2011 02:10 PM, Colin Reveley wrote:
> Hello - 
>
> I'm having a segmentation difficulty. The aim is to register F99 
> (macaque) against an individual. The individual was scanned ex-vivo, 
> so it's an MTR image rather than T1. So the contrast is kind of better 
> than T1 and that may, or may not cause issues with surefit. I've tried 
> segmentation many ways. 
>
> the data is 0.25mm, so it is is downsampled to 0.5mm. there is a bias 
> field but I think it's corrected pretty well (using FAST, in FSL) and 
> the intensities are uniform.
>
> The MTR image has to be put into the correct orientation for caret, so 
> I register it to a deskulled F99. I've tried 6 parameter (I see no 
> need to scale it) and affine transforms. I transorm at 0.25mm (I 
> upsampled the deskulled F99), and then downsample for surefit.
>
> whatever I try, the result is the same as the figure attached, on the 
> right next to F99.
>
> I can tolerate most of the differences, but the issue at the rostral 
> end, where there is a fork in the frontal lobe towards the posterior 
> that is simply absent in F99, F6, wisconsin and all macaque 
> literature. It worries me a lot. It seems a lot of variation for macaque.
I'm not certain which feature you mean, but I think it is the sulcus 
delineated by the aqua border, sandwiched between the more vertical 
lime-green and blue ones.  Yes, it is more defined in your subject, but 
it strikes me as demanding more uniformity than is warranted, even for a 
macaque.
>
> In the left hemisphere, this problem is less pronounced, but I'd like 
> to use the right for obvious reasons.
>
> It seems like this is a difference in gross anatomy. So it's likely wrong.
>
> when looking at the surefit result, there is quite a bit of gray 
> matter that, it would seem, has no associated white matter, and hence 
> is rejected from the segmentation.
>
> I think it does have associated white matter (it must do), and the 
> problem is to do with the linear transforms and/or resampling. Or the 
> MTR, just maybe although I doubt it.
>
> In any case, I'd be grateful if you'd take a look. the region I'm 
> referring too should be clear from the figure. There's a missing 
> sulcus from my brain,
Just looking at the surface on the left, it does indeed look like there 
is a tunnel under what is likely a fused sulcus in your segmentation.  
It might not be too hard to "un-fuse" the posterior branch of that 
sulcus with patching.  Otherwise, your surface really looks pretty decent.

You can try peak tweaking 
(http://brainvis.wustl.edu/help/peak_tweaking/); however, I'd copy your 
anatomical to a different directory, because I'm not sure you're going 
to improve on this base segmentation.  Doesn't hurt to try, though.
> and one that shouldn't be there, in the frontal lobe above the 
> temporal tip.
>
> help appreciated.
>
> Colin,
>
> Sackler Centre
> Sussex
>
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