Thanks Donna!

You gave me enough information for me to figure out the problem in several 
directions.

I let you know later if I solved the issue.

Many thanks!

Cheers!


João V. Dornas

> On Mar 21, 2016, at 19:43, Donna Dierker <donna.dier...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 12:44 PM, João Vicente Dornas <joaodor...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Rouhi,
>> 
>> thanks for the prompt response.
>> 
>> In fact, I did that already, but the Freesurfer oversample the image to 1 
>> mm. 
>> 
>> I had two problems. In one attempt, when I use mri_vol2surf to create my 
>> labels/annotation files from AAL.nii my subcortical regions Pallidum and 
>> Hippocampus disappeared.
>> 
>> Later on I solved this problem, and I did the rendering, showing all 90 ROI 
>> colorful, but a few vertexes are empty, and therefore black on the top of 
>> the brain.
> 
> See this page:
> 
> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/help/pals_volume_normalization/
> 
> These were procedures for the PALS surfaces, but similar steps were used to 
> get colin in various stereotaxic spaces.  I chose SPM2, because I guessed it 
> was the best fit for AAL's MNI space.  Maybe the original (unwarped) colin 
> would be better, but I'm not sure I can still find that.  These were in the 
> caret distribution.
> 
> This figure illustrates how different mapping can be with different versions 
> of MNI space:
> 
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2045137/figure/F1/
> 
> … due to methodological (warping) differences.
> 
>> I was wondering if there is somewhere a surface file for the Colin27 brain 
>> but sampled on 2mm MNI152, because my AAL volume is MNI152 2mm.
> 
> This surface should align with both 1mm and 2mm volumes in MNI space.  There 
> are multiple vertices within each cubic 2mm voxel, so if you map the volume 
> to the surface, many vertices will have the same value.
> 
> http://brainvis.wustl.edu/help/pals_volume_normalization/spm5_captures/
> 
> The second link shows the surface contours overlaid on the volume.  These 
> captures show PALS subjects rather than colin, but they illustrate what the 
> surface contour looks like on a 1mm T1.  If you downsampled the T1 to 2mm, it 
> would just look blockier -- the alignment wouldn't change.
> 
>> Or maybe I could do the recon-all from Freesurfer on Colin27 T1 image but 
>> WITHOUT changing the dimensionality. I mean, without registration and 
>> spatial normalization to another space.
> 
> Yeah, I wonder if David has the original, unwarped colin surface.  I did look 
> in two places I thought it might be, but no luck.
> 
>> Maybe I am doing something wrong. But so far I had the plots, but with these 
>> two drawbacks.
>> 
>> Do you know for instance a way to load the "spec" file from Colin from Caret 
>> on FreeView?
> 
> The only way I know is to export to GIFTI (surf.gii), which you can do in 
> caret5 (File: Save Data File: Gifti Surface file) while the colin surface is 
> loaded in the main window.  But the only specs I could find were all warps of 
> some sort (afni, 711-2B, SPM99, SPM2).  The unwarped surface exists 
> somewhere, I'm sure -- just don't know how to find it.
> 
> Joern Diedricksen may have it, as he was using the colin cerebellar surface 
> for SUIT; however, I'm not sure he'd have if for the cerebral hemispheres. :(
> 
>> 
>> thanks for the help,
>> 
>> 
>> João V. Dornas
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 17:36, Rouhollah Abdollahi <roohy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Joao, 
>>> 
>>> The simple way is to do the segmentation with the Colin27 brain that will 
>>> create all the surfaces in Freesurfer. The following link is the Colin27 
>>> brain:
>>> 
>>> http://packages.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/mni-models/colin27/mni_colin27_1998_nifti.zip
>>> 
>>> and if you know freesurfer do the recon-all then you have all surfaces that 
>>> you want.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Rouhi
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:51 PM, João V. Dornas <joaodor...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear Friends,
>>> 
>>> I need a surface compatible with AAL volume with the dimensions from MNI152 
>>> 2mm (91x109x91).
>>> 
>>> I learned that Caret has the “spec” files from Colin27, which was the brain 
>>> reference for AAL.
>>> 
>>> Does someone knows a straightforward way to load this surface on FreeView 
>>> from FreeSurfer ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> João V. Dornas
>>> Phd student in Neuroscience
>>> Cognitive Biology Group, Institute of Biology
>>> Otto von Guericke University, Magdeburg
>>> Germany
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