hi

po are only human readable container for the text<->translation strings

when running the cw3setup script, the .po get compilated by gettext into binary .mo, these files are located in cartoweb3/locale/*langcode*/LC_MESSAGES/*projectid.projectid.projectid*.mo these are the files actualy used by gettext to do the string replacement in real time.

the .po contains the string you want to translate.
For convenience, cartoweb include 2 scripts one can use to generate some basic .mo for a given project: client2pot and server2pot. These script simply look inside all the files of your project for every strings included into I18n::gt(...) call (in php file) or into {t}...{/t} tag (in templates files). additionaly, the server2pot also get all the layer's labels from either the layers.ini file or the mapfile. dynamicaly generated strings will not get "recovered" by those scripts unless someone provided some fake/hidden {t}..{/t} or I18n::gt(...), for example for the tools's labels.

client.po, server.*projectid*.po, server.po contain the raw (untranslated) list of strings for a given project.
msgid "IdRecentering"
msgstr ""

client.en.po, server.*projectid*.en.po, server.en.po are COPIES!!! of the raw .po but this time they ALSO contain the translated strings for the corresponding language.
msgid "IdRecentering"
msgstr "Identifiers recentering"

to quickly add translations to your projects, you can easily copy the existing .po files provided in cartoweb by default and modify them. You will have some extra translated/unwanted strings but nothing that cant be easily modified/removed if needed.
copy ALL the .po files into your project's po folder.
look at an existing demo /po folder to see whats there.

if you want "clean" po files, you need to run the client2pot and server2pot scripts to generate the RAW po files for your project and then COPY these files and rename them with the extra 2 letters lang tag (.po > .en.po) and EDIT them to add the translations for all the strings you want. I would suggest moving/deleting all .po existing in cartoweb3/po/ BEFORE doing that, as if some .po already exist, the script will try to merge their content with the newly extracted content, which may be problematic. so once you have emptied the /po folder, go to /cartoweb3/scripts/ and run the command "php client2pot.php *yourprojectid*" and "php server2pot.php *yourprojectid*"

if you see ("zoomin", "query_by_bbox") it means the strings are NOT translated. check that gettext is installed and that it works correctly (see documentation on how to test that http://www.cartoweb.org/doc/cw3.5/xhtml/user.i18n.html#user.i18n.translations.debug)
restart Apache too.
gettext is a bit buggy and sometimes you need to restart Apache to see the modification you did in the .po files even after you have run the cw3setup script to generate the .mo

regards
Oliver

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Duncan, GISmatters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cartoweb Users" <cartoweb-users@lists.maptools.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: [Cartoweb-users] Confused about .po files


I am *not* trying to internationalize my application -- for our user base and local application, there's no need to support any other language than English.

I would like, however, to change some of the text that appears (for example, in the tips that pop up when you hover over a tool like the zoom-in tool).

I have tried to understand the system of .po files (defaults, project-specific, alternate languages, sources vs. generated, etc), but have become completely confused. I have not found enough info in the documentation or wiki to clear up my confusion.

Could someone please provide a simple, clear, concise discussion of the following (if you don't have lots of time to answer, then please just skip to item (c) which is my most urgent question):

(a) When, and in what order, do .po files get used? For one thing, I'm confused about what happens when I refresh the installation using cw3setup vs. what happens at runtime when someone is using the site. I see that there are *generated* .po files in the htdocs/po folder... I assume *those* are the ones that actually provide text to the application at runtime. But even there I find "default" and project-specific folders and files. Where do "source" files live, and what is the chain of processing that converts and/or merges them to create the ones I see in htdocs/po?

(b) When do language-specific files get used? If there is both a client.po and client.en.po file, which one gets used? What is the interaction of the "generic" vs. the "language-specific" .po files?

(c) Last, but most important to me at this time: Suppose I wanted to change the hover-text of the "zoom in" button to say "Choose this tool and click on the map to zoom in" (we have some very un-savvy users!). What specific steps do I follow to make that change in the recommended way? My project currently has *no* po folder or files... do I copy them from <cartowebhome>/po and then modify them? Do I need to run server2pot.php and client2pot.php to initialize them in some way? I'm totally lost on how to proceed...

One final detail that adds to my confusion: on my development machine (WinXP, Apache server) I get message text like "Zoom in" or "Query by rectangle" when I hover over the tools; when I upload my project to the live web server (Windows Server, IIS) the tips are the message IDs instead of the text ("zoomin", "query_by_bbox"). Why do they differ?

Thanks in advance to any of you who can help me understand this! Cheers,

Chris

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