Hi all.  Thanks for the information.  I'll try and digest it!

John


On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Homin Jiang <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear John:
>
> For the ADCs faster than 10Gsps, i think a bigger FPGA than ROACH2 is
> necessary. The speed of utrascale + FPGA is about 800/900MHz, that
> lead to 32 (10Gsps) or 64(16Gsps) parallel inputs to PFB/FFT.
> According to Rurik's equation, it  needs 4 or 16 times resource of
> FPGA in comparison to 5G adc.
>
> There are many FMC interface ADCs available in the market. Hitech
> Global is making the 10Gsps board using Analog Device 9213
> (http://www.hitechglobal.com/FMCModules/12-bitADC_10Gsps.htm).
> Unfortunately, there is no FMC platform ported to JASPER so far. There
> are couple of groups working independently, Jack/Brian, Arashi and
> myself. So, i am thinking we should form a VCU118 working group to
> expedite the porting work. We can talk about this during the meeting.
>
> best
> homin
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:45 AM, David MacMahon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi, John,
> >
> > I was speaking with Homin last week at the CASPER Hardware Porting
> Workshop
> > hosted in Cape Town.  He mentioned the Analog Devices 10 Gsps 12-bit ADC
> > that I think is the same one Dan referenced. My recollection of our
> > conversation was that the pricing was not so bad, but I could be
> conflating
> > that assessment with a different ADC. In any event, I think future ADC
> > boards will move to FMC (or FMC+) connectors.  This will necessitate new
> > host FPGA boards which is why the next gen CASPER toolflow emphasizes
> ease
> > of porting new boards to the CASPER toolflow. It’s an exciting upgrade in
> > processing capacity, but it’s still early days. Definitely fodder CASPER
> > Workshop discussions! :)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Aug 6, 2018, at 20:25, Dan Werthimer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > hi john,
> >
> > how many bits do you need?
> >
> > here are some possibilities:
> >
> > a)
> > if 4 bits, then homin's 15 Gsps adc board might be a good choice.
> >
> > b)
> > if 12 bits, and you don't mind breaking the band up into 2 GHz chunks,
> > then this $9K RFsoc eval board has eight 12 bit 4Gsps ADC's and a big
> FPGA
> > to channelize and packetize:
> > https://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/zcu111.html
> >
> > c)
> > if 12 bits, and you want to digitize the whole band at once,
> > you might consider AD's new 10.25GSps 12-bits ADC with a 6.5GHz
> bandwidth:
> > http://www.analog.com/en/products/analog-to-digital-
> converters/standard-adc/high-speed-ad-10msps/ad9213.html
> > but it's pricy, data sheet is preliminary, and i don't know if anybody
> has
> > an FMC board with this chip yet.
> > http://www.analog.com/en/about-adi/news-room/press-
> releases/2018/5-21-2018-12-bit-10-point-25-gsps-radio-
> frequency-adc-sets-new-performance.html
> >  shows the pricing as $3,652.49 in 1000 piece quantities.
> >
> >
> > best wishes,
> >
> > dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 11:13 AM, John Ford <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all.  We're interested in wideband moderate performance
> spectrometers.
> >> Something that can digitize 2 (or 4) polarizations at at ~ 8 to 10
> GS/s, and
> >> provide ~4K channels, full stokes, with a moderate dump rate (1 GB/sec
> or
> >> less).
> >>
> >> We could use 8 ROACH-2/ADC-5GS VEGAS-style spectrometer blades, 2 for
> each
> >> 4 GHz polarization and sideband. (simultaneous upper and lower
> sidebands are
> >> required)
> >>
> >> Or we could move on to newer ADCs and processing boards, and get the
> full
> >> 4 GHz from each polarization in one go.  I think this is preferable, for
> >> many reasons.
> >>
> >> The key here, I think, is the ADCs that may have come to market (or to
> the
> >> casper community) since VEGAS was built.  I know Homin Jiang and
> Jonathan
> >> Weintroub's groups are working on wideband ADCs and integration with
> FPGA
> >> boards.
> >>
> >> So the questions that I am posing are:  What ADCs and hardware
> >> configuration would you choose for a minimum-effort maximum-effect
> project
> >> to be built and deployed in the near future?  What projects could we
> assist
> >> with in getting the next fast ADCs developed and tested?
> >>
> >> Is this all fodder for the CASPER workshop discussions?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
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