JetBrains have been moving very fast. They are now up to 4.5.1 and respond
very quickly to fix defects and add new functionality, a really friendly and
responsive team.

We used to use a home grown process with artifacts being copied to a network
share the and the logs being sent to an Exchange folder. It has been a good
experience moving from that to TeamCity which just does everything for you
and allows the builds to be much more discoverable to everyone. I have used
CC.NET for personal projects and know the pain caused from managing it and I
agree that it isn't going anywhere fast. I think JetBrains made a smart move
making TeamCity Professional free because it wasn't long until we moved up
to an Enterprise licence.

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Roelof Blom <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jono,
>
> The question was a general question, we are using currently CCNET at work
> but it lacks functionality for us in these areas: distributing the load,
> access control and managing build artifacts. It also isn't improving very
> fast.
>
> I've looked into TC (2.x I believe) and wasn't convinced then of moving
> over. It's current feature set is impressive and I think I will consider it
> again. Thanks for triggering me :-)
>
> Easy branch setup for Castle is a great benefit, and so are the duplicates
> finder and FxCop integration I believe.
>
> -- Roelof.
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Yes I am using TeamCity on a regular basis, everyday at work. I have
>> become our build master.
>>
>> I'm not sure if you were asking as a general question or in relation to
>> how it would help Castle.
>>
>> It's not something Castle needs but we have 5 build agents at work to run
>> builds on which is something CC.NET does not support. TeamCity supports
>> pre-tested commit which is something I have never used because our builds at
>> work take too long but it would be interesting to be able to do this with
>> Castle.
>>
>> There is a big list of features on the JetBrains web site (
>> http://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity/features/index.html). I cannot think
>> off the top of my head of all the nice little things TeamCity gives you over
>> CC.NET that you don't realise until you start using it. Nice things like
>> the dashboard updating to tell you the current step in the build and
>> statistics of the build configuration (e.g. number of unit tests, build
>> time).
>>
>> I think one of the biggest things TeamCity would give Castle is the
>> ability to set up branches without needing access to the build server as
>> CC.NET does. This would actually allow us to build the branches we are
>> creating for projects.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Roelof Blom <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just curious: are you using TC on a regular basis and what makes it
>>> better than CCNET (apart from the much better administrative tools/UI)?
>>>
>>> -- Roelof
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is up to the Stronghold guys whether we can move. I am happy to spend
>>>> the time setting up TeamCity, or provide help setting it up if one of the
>>>> Stronghold guys wants to do it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Tuna Toksoz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure the exact case but Castle Stronghold may be using the
>>>>> same server. This may make the things a bit complex.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option would be to use TeamCity of codebetter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuna Toksöz
>>>>> Eternal sunshine of the open source mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://devlicio.us/blogs/tuna_toksoz
>>>>> http://tunatoksoz.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/tehlike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Krzysztof Kozmic <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  +1 on TeamCity,
>>>>>> I think it's worth considering if the move does not require too much
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> Since JetBrains already contribute some software to Castle, it should
>>>>>> not be a problem to get appropriate license...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Krzysztof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> [email protected] 2009-05-09 13:44 >>>
>>>>>> No luck, still has the red circle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have we ever considered moving from CruiseControl.NET to TeamCity? It
>>>>>> allows you to set up branches much easier than CruiseControl.NET and has 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> really nice web interface. We have been using it at work for the last few
>>>>>> months and it was really easy to set up and manage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Roelof Blom <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That red line containing nunit-console2 has always been there, it's
>>>>>>> for detection of nunit on mono. It's a bit ugIy however, so I will 
>>>>>>> commit a
>>>>>>> 'fix' shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Roelof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Jonathon Rossi 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone with access to the build machine will need to fix this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if it is caused by this red line in the nant output:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [exec] C:\ccnet\CastleWorkDir\WorkingDirectory\common.xml(256,5):
>>>>>>>>> 'nunit-console2' failed to start.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As pointed out by many people, the navigation on the builds page is
>>>>>>>> also out of date, including dead links (there is a task in donjon 
>>>>>>>> about this
>>>>>>>> too).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Ayende Rahien 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://builds.castleproject.org/cruise/ViewSummary.castle?name=CastleProject&log=log20090505072634Lbuild.1090.xml
>>>>>>>>>  It reports that the last build has failed, but the last build
>>>>>>>>> passed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jono
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jono
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