So John, you're suggesting we close the users group, and route *all* discussion to devel group? I'm not sure. I don't care about little duplication we get, users group while not ideal for Q&A has little friction so I'd just leave it, and suggest using SO.
That said I'm +1 for option 2. We have more important issues to take care of now. On 16 Kwi, 00:48, John Simons <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes these are the options but IMO option 2 and 4 are just creating > more work for us. > and again IMO "discussions and other stuff" do not belong in the > users mailing list, these belong in the developers mailing list. > > Cheers > John > > On Apr 16, 8:38 am, Mauricio Scheffer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > We could vote. Are there any options other than these? > > > 1. Declare stackoverflow as the official support channel, remove the > > users list > > 2. Enforce stackoverflow as the preferred channel, but leave the users > > list for discussions and other stuff > > 3. Build a Shapado site as the official support channel, remove the users > > list > > 4. Build a Shapado site as the preferred channel, but leave the users > > list for discussions and other stuff > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:30 PM, John Simons > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > It doesn't sound like we have an agreement. > > > > The original question was with the intend of moving Q&A to SO and > > > close the users mailing list. > > > There are some concerns of closing the users mailing list, but the > > > idea of moving Q&A to SO seems to be OK, is this right? > > > Regarding SO, the users would have to tag questions correctly, > > > otherwise they wouldn't be picked up. > > > > As I stated before I don't think is a good idea to keep both going (SO > > > and mailing list), I actually think if this is the case then I don't > > > see the point of doing it at all. > > > And in my opinion the google mailing list doesn't give our users what > > > they want (a proper Q&A). > > > So I'm not too sure how to proceed, any more thoughts? > > > > Cheers > > > John > > > > On Apr 16, 4:12 am, Krzysztof Ko¼mic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Julian > > > > > If a question keeps coming up it should go to FAQ :-) > > > > > On 2010-04-15 20:04, Julian Birch wrote: > > > > > > Is that really a problem? I mean, if people get the answer they need > > > > > does it really matter how they got it? Nothing wrong with having good > > > > > docs /and/ an active community. > > > > > > J > > > > > > P.S. If a question keeps coming up, maybe it should be moved to > > > > > UserVoice rather than the documentation... :) > > > > > > On 15 April 2010 18:53, Daniel Hölbling <[email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > Krzysztof, the problem with SO is that it tends to not upvote / > > > > > accept answers that are not on SO. > > > > > So however great your article on stw.castleproject.org > > > > > <http://stw.castleproject.org> will be, if someone comes along > > > > > giving an adequate answer to the SO question inside SO it tends to > > > > > get voted up and accepted instead of leaving the link. > > > > > Sure we could just go ahead and copy our docs to the SO questions > > > > > though.. > > > > > > greetings Daniel > > > > > > 2010/4/15 Krzysztof Ko¼mic <[email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > Also, to everyone: > > > > > > When taking the time to answer a question, perhaps it would be > > > > > better to utilize the time for improving the docs and linking > > > > > to there? > > > > > I want to remind everybody we have a wiki at > > > > > http://stw.castleproject.org/wherethedocs will live, and > > > > > one that hopefully will replace > > > > > using.* site and our anakia-based docs. > > > > > > It has twofold effect - our docs get improved, people get the > > > > > message "Castle has good docs, look for answers there", plus > > > > > we get links > > > > > from SO to our website which I think is not bad from SEO > > > > > standpoint. > > > > > > Krzysztof > > > > > > On 2010-04-14 23:37, Mauricio Scheffer wrote: > > > > >> 90% of the time I just redirect them to the google group, > > > > >> unless it's something trivial that can be answered right away > > > > >> without any doubts. > > > > >> And my signature has a "this forum is deprecated", so every > > > > >> message is a reminder :-) > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:28 PM, John Simons > > > > >> <[email protected] > > > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > >> The old forum keeps on hunting us! > > > > >> Henry and Hamilton, can we please please please get it > > > > >> closed? > > > > > >> Mauricio, > > > > >> Don't take this the wrong way but, I noticed you keep on > > > > >> answering > > > > >> questions there, that may be the reason why people keep > > > > >> on posting > > > > >> over there. > > > > > >> Cheers > > > > >> John > > > > > >> On Apr 15, 4:08 am, Krzysztof Ko¼mic > > > > >> <[email protected] > > > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > Why the forum is not closed for posting? > > > > > >> > On 2010-04-14 19:15, Mauricio Scheffer wrote: > > > > > >> > > Problem is, people don't read. They won't read the > > > > >> sticker about > > > > >> > > stackoverflow (or won't care) and they will continue > > > > >> to cross-post > > > > >> > > everywhere they *can* post, just as they're still > > > > >> posting on the old > > > > >> > > phpBB forum (http://forum.castleproject.org) right > > > > >> now, despite the > > > > >> > > stickies and warnings. > > > > >> > > I agree about the custom stack exchange, it wouldn't > > > > >> benefit anyone. > > > > > >> > > On Apr 14, 4:54 am, Krzysztof Ko¼mic > > > > >> (2)<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> I don't see any value in custom stack exchange site. > > > > >> > >> SO works well, and it gets a lot more eyeballs than > > > > >> custom website. > > > > > >> > >> That means potentially far more people can answer > > > > >> questions and > > > > >> > >> potentially > > > > >> > >> far more people can stumble upon Castle related > > > > >> question and learn > > > > >> > >> about the project. > > > > > >> > >> I don't see why we would retire google group. 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