Btw, speaking of building the WCF Facility, when it builds using the build
server on my machine, it fails, apparently looking for some server running
on localhost:*27198. I'm willing to set it up. I just need to know what it
is.*
Truth,
James
2011/8/14 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>
> I don't really care which one we chose. Build is something we set up and
> forget, so I'm happy with whatever choice.
> I'm +1 to the idea of self contained build - where we can just get source
> on a clean Windows machine click build.bat and have it do its job OOTB.
>
> Right now my pain point with the build is that every project uses slightly
> different version of the build script, which causes problems (trying to get
> WCF Facility build to work like Windsor's build etc, which lead to delay in
> Windsor 3 beta 1 release).
>
> So while we're on it, can we at least try to come up with a solution to
> that problem as well?
> K
>
>
> On 15/08/2011 6:45 AM, hammett wrote:
>
>> Check http://builds.castleproject.**org/<http://builds.castleproject.org/>
>>
>> I'm talking about a simple workflow of changing a source file, running
>> the build to make there's no functional regression on dependent
>> projects, and then making a pull request.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Tim
>> Kellogg<timothy.kellogg@gmail.**com<[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @hammett,
>>> Maybe the problem of build/test all isn't going to be solved at all by
>>> which
>>> build system castle uses. The problem would probably solved quite well by
>>> using a continuous integration server. Check out the free teamcity
>>> instances
>>> at codebetter
>>> (http://codebetter.com/**jameskovacs/2009/02/24/**announcing-teamcity-**
>>> codebetter-com/<http://codebetter.com/jameskovacs/2009/02/24/announcing-teamcity-codebetter-com/>
>>> )
>>> --Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:53 PM, hammett<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately this will change once we get the projects group together
>>>> again. The build scripts will need to build and run the tests for all
>>>> of them. While this can be done from VS, it hardly is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Tim Kellogg<timothy.kellogg@gmail.**
>>>> com <[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've worked with rake for a while and I've been extremely pleased with
>>>>> it. I'd also like to say that I don't think it would be necessary to
>>>>> install ruby in order to contribute to Castle. Most rake scripts
>>>>> (including henrik's) make a call to MSBuild to do the actual
>>>>> compilation. If I was to contribute to castle, all I would have to do
>>>>> is fork the project and open it up in visual studio and build it like
>>>>> I would with any other project. The main benefit for using rake (or
>>>>> anything other than MSBuild) is to automate the release process and
>>>>> ensure consistency. Henrik's script does this very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 14, 12:11 pm, hammett<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I woudnt assume f# is installed on every machine. I'd add the
>>>>>> required files to tools/fsharp or something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the build wouldn't be much more than invoking project's msbuild
>>>>>> file. So the fake script will be more about clean/build/test/publish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used fake on MR3 if you want to look at the scripts. I guess it's
>>>>>> quite messy right now...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Henrik Feldt<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had a look at phantom. The last commit is in February - this
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> long time without being updated. Also, there is not nearly the same
>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>> of tasks available as rake/albacore has, so more would have to be
>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>> fixed - also there are more people who know ruby than know boo.
>>>>>>> FAKE, I have no experience with. It has the positive side that F# is
>>>>>>> shipped
>>>>>>> with .Net so there's no install, but perhaps a negative side in that
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> not as widely used as either MsBuild or rake.
>>>>>>> Getting up and running with albacore is as easy as downloading the
>>>>>>> ruby
>>>>>>> installer and running it. Then going to the folder in question and
>>>>>>> executing
>>>>>>> 'rake'. I don't see how this is too hard for a developer to do, but
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> probably partial. With regards to the number of pre-built tasks,
>>>>>>> albacore
>>>>>>> has a fair number of them:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/**derickbailey/Albacore/wiki/_**pagesand<https://github.com/derickbailey/Albacore/wiki/_pagesand>is
>>>>>>> actively
>>>>>>> maintained.
>>>>>>> In any way, all of the above are better than MsBuild imo, so
>>>>>>> whichever we
>>>>>>> land with, I'm happier than before :).
>>>>>>> It would be great to hear some more opinions from the team.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>> castle-project-devel@**googlegroups.com<[email protected]>
>>>>>>> [mailto:castle-project-devel@**googlegroups.com<[email protected]>]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Mauricio
>>>>>>> Scheffer
>>>>>>> Sent: den 14 augusti 2011 17:20
>>>>>>> To: Castle Project Development List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Builds
>>>>>>> -1 for Rake and +1 for FAKE, I fully agree with hammett.
>>>>>>> F# works very well as a scripting language. Phantom (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/**JeremySkinner/Phantom<https://github.com/JeremySkinner/Phantom>)
>>>>>>> also looks good (haven't
>>>>>>> used it
>>>>>>> personally though) if you want something more ruby-like.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mauricio
>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 8:06 pm, hammett<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So the experience is two fold:
>>>>>>>> 1 - users download our stuff. it's easy to provide a decent
>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2 - *contributors* need to be able to get their feet quickly. and
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> is my main concern.
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Henrik Feldt<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right, but if we can provide a good experience without rake, such
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> packages with the pre-built DLLs and symbols linked to source code
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> symbolsource.org, then newcomers might not have to build - in
>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>> to make building it manually something that warrants being able to
>>>>>>>>> download an executable and install it?
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>> castle-project-devel@**googlegroups.com<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:castle-project-devel@**googlegroups.com<[email protected]>]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> hammett
>>>>>>>>> Sent: den 13 augusti 2011 21:02
>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>> castle-project-devel@**googlegroups.com<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Builds
>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with anything beyond MSBuild. The only thing I dont like
>>>>>>>>> about rake is being forced to install Ruby. This may create
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> layer of complexity for newcomers.
>>>>>>>>> I've tried FAKE last weekend and it's self-contained enough for my
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Henrik Feldt<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys,
>>>>>>>>>> Starting an old question now that some water has passed under the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bridges:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how to easiest build the castle projects. As you know I have been
>>>>>>>>>> building Transactions with rake for a while now, and it's working
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>> But I still thought it took too much time to change existing
>>>>>>>>>> projects into albacore/rake. So I created a gem called 'logirel'.
>>>>>>>>>> It scaffolds a complete rakefile with nuspecs, semver-versioning,
>>>>>>>>>> nuget, nuget push tasks, output tasks etc. It's not perfect, but
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> show what it can do, I ran it on Windsor's repository and made a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pull-request out of it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/**castleproject/Castle.Windsor/**pull/13<https://github.com/castleproject/Castle.Windsor/pull/13>
>>>>>>>>>> Try merging locally and running both 'rake' and 'rake -T' to see
>>>>>>>>>> its capabilities (or cloning haf/Castle.Windsor). First, of
>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>> you need to install what's in the bundle with:
>>>>>>>>>> $ gem install bundle
>>>>>>>>>> $ bundle install
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to try out logirel, it's as simple as standing in the
>>>>>>>>>> folder you want to remake and running:
>>>>>>>>>> $ logirel
>>>>>>>>>> and then answering the questions. You need to set up a
>>>>>>>>>> tools/nuget.exe directory after it's done.
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think guys?
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Henrik
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