Yes, this would be for Monorail vNext. And yes I know Monorail contains an internal container (but this is not a fully fledge IoC container), so what I want to gather from this poll is if we should ship a real container (and since we have Windsor, that would be my choice) with Monorail out of the box.
Cheers John On Feb 25, 6:32 am, Alex Henderson <[email protected]> wrote: > I think if Monorail v.Next did require IoC I don't think it would do any > harm - with the emergence of ASP.Net MVC, and that fact it works on mono as > well - it seems like the audience for Monorail has been reduced, such that > people selecting the framework are probably the "running with scissors" > type. > > It should also make things simpler in many respects i.e. currently the > monorail container can have services which aren't available to your IoC > container, so you need to manually register them etc. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I know of at least two websites (not too small, but not too large also) > > that run MR without IoC. > > > The reasoning behind those was resistance from Management (for the first) > > and Client (for the second) to adopt more than one new concept (I'm talking > > 2006 here), so an MVC was more than enough for them to chew on. > > Add to that my personal lack of understanding of the IoC world back then, > > and you end up with applications that are not too bad, even though could > > have benefited from a full featured IoC. > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Jason Meckley > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> agreed, MR should default to use an IoC. Taking that question one step > >> further; does anyone use MR without an IoC? If not, why not require > >> the IoC, similar to FUBU? > > >> On Feb 24, 7:59 am, Roelof Blom <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Perhaps the question is meant for MonoRail vNext, which could be a whole > >> > different beast. > > >> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Mauricio Scheffer < > > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > An old post by hammett on integrating MonoRail with other containers: > >> > >http://hammett.castleproject.org/?p=317 > > >> > > On Feb 24, 9:30 am, Mauricio Scheffer <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > I agree with Ken, MonoRail already has a container: > >> > >http://svn.castleproject.org:8080/svn/castle/MonoRail/trunk/src/Castl. > >> .. > > >> > > > It implements IServiceProvider and has AddService methods, so it can > >> > > > be used as a generic container. > > >> > > > Cheers, > >> > > > Mauricio > > >> > > > On Feb 24, 8:46 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > isn't that what the Monorail Container is all about? > >> > > > > plus it allow you to not use an IoC at all if you'd like it > >> better. > > >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, John Simons < > >> > > [email protected]>wrote: > > >> > > > > > I agree with everything you said, I just want to be sure that > >> the > >> > > > > > majority of users agree too, before doing the change :) > > >> > > > > > Cheers > >> > > > > > John > > >> > > > > > On Feb 24, 10:24 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > Fact that MonoRail should be built around IoC and with IoC in > >> mind > >> > > is > >> > > > > > > a no brainer IMO. > > >> > > > > > > It should have to have some IoC to function, but does not > >> depend on > >> > > > > > > any particular one. > >> > > > > > > Much like FubuMVC, OpenRASTA, NServiceBus and other frameworks > >> > > handle > >> > > > > > > this. > > >> > > > > > > obviously by default it should ship with Windsor integration, > >> while > >> > > > > > > adapters for other frameworks would live in contrib. > > >> > > > > > > And it should never call container directly, via some sort of > >> > > > > > > ServiceLocator abstraction. > >> > > > > > > Where it has to pull a custom, abstract factory should be > >> defined, > >> > > so > >> > > > > > > that either typed factory facility could be used, > >> > > > > > > manually coded factory, or factory backed by any other > >> container. > > >> > > > > > > On 24 Lut, 12:05, John Simons <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > To get a better understanding on what to have out of the box > >> in > >> > > > > > > > Monorail, I've put another poll up onhttp:// > >> twtpoll.com/zr1tt0 > > >> > > > > > > > So if you've got a moment, and are using Monorail, please > >> vote. > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks > >> > > > > > > > John > > >> > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google > >> > > Groups > >> > > > > > "Castle Project Users" group. > >> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > > > . > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > > > > > [email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > >> <castle-project-users%[email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > >> ><castle-project-users%2Bun > >> > > [email protected]> > >> > > > > > . > >> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > >> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-users?hl=en. > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Ken Egozi. > > >>http://www.kenegozi.com/bloghttp://www.delver.comhttp://www.musicglue... > >> כנס > >> > > הקהילתי הראשון למפתחי דוטנט - 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