IMHO it should fully use Windsor out of the box. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:27 PM, John Simons <[email protected]>wrote:
> Yes, this would be for Monorail vNext. > And yes I know Monorail contains an internal container (but this is > not a fully fledge IoC container), so what I want to gather from this > poll is if we should ship a real container (and since we have Windsor, > that would be my choice) with Monorail out of the box. > > Cheers > John > > On Feb 25, 6:32 am, Alex Henderson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think if Monorail v.Next did require IoC I don't think it would do any > > harm - with the emergence of ASP.Net MVC, and that fact it works on mono > as > > well - it seems like the audience for Monorail has been reduced, such > that > > people selecting the framework are probably the "running with scissors" > > type. > > > > It should also make things simpler in many respects i.e. currently the > > monorail container can have services which aren't available to your IoC > > container, so you need to manually register them etc. > > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I know of at least two websites (not too small, but not too large also) > > > that run MR without IoC. > > > > > The reasoning behind those was resistance from Management (for the > first) > > > and Client (for the second) to adopt more than one new concept (I'm > talking > > > 2006 here), so an MVC was more than enough for them to chew on. > > > Add to that my personal lack of understanding of the IoC world back > then, > > > and you end up with applications that are not too bad, even though > could > > > have benefited from a full featured IoC. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Jason Meckley <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > >> agreed, MR should default to use an IoC. Taking that question one step > > >> further; does anyone use MR without an IoC? If not, why not require > > >> the IoC, similar to FUBU? > > > > >> On Feb 24, 7:59 am, Roelof Blom <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Perhaps the question is meant for MonoRail vNext, which could be a > whole > > >> > different beast. > > > > >> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Mauricio Scheffer < > > > > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > An old post by hammett on integrating MonoRail with other > containers: > > >> > >http://hammett.castleproject.org/?p=317 > > > > >> > > On Feb 24, 9:30 am, Mauricio Scheffer <[email protected] > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > I agree with Ken, MonoRail already has a container: > > >> > > > http://svn.castleproject.org:8080/svn/castle/MonoRail/trunk/src/Castl. > > >> .. > > > > >> > > > It implements IServiceProvider and has AddService methods, so it > can > > >> > > > be used as a generic container. > > > > >> > > > Cheers, > > >> > > > Mauricio > > > > >> > > > On Feb 24, 8:46 am, Ken Egozi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > isn't that what the Monorail Container is all about? > > >> > > > > plus it allow you to not use an IoC at all if you'd like it > > >> better. > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM, John Simons < > > >> > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > I agree with everything you said, I just want to be sure > that > > >> the > > >> > > > > > majority of users agree too, before doing the change :) > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers > > >> > > > > > John > > > > >> > > > > > On Feb 24, 10:24 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic (2) < > [email protected]> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > Fact that MonoRail should be built around IoC and with IoC > in > > >> mind > > >> > > is > > >> > > > > > > a no brainer IMO. > > > > >> > > > > > > It should have to have some IoC to function, but does not > > >> depend on > > >> > > > > > > any particular one. > > >> > > > > > > Much like FubuMVC, OpenRASTA, NServiceBus and other > frameworks > > >> > > handle > > >> > > > > > > this. > > > > >> > > > > > > obviously by default it should ship with Windsor > integration, > > >> while > > >> > > > > > > adapters for other frameworks would live in contrib. > > > > >> > > > > > > And it should never call container directly, via some sort > of > > >> > > > > > > ServiceLocator abstraction. > > >> > > > > > > Where it has to pull a custom, abstract factory should be > > >> defined, > > >> > > so > > >> > > > > > > that either typed factory facility could be used, > > >> > > > > > > manually coded factory, or factory backed by any other > > >> container. > > > > >> > > > > > > On 24 Lut, 12:05, John Simons <[email protected] > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > To get a better understanding on what to have out of the > box > > >> in > > >> > > > > > > > Monorail, I've put another poll up onhttp:// > > >> twtpoll.com/zr1tt0 > > > > >> > > > > > > > So if you've got a moment, and are using Monorail, > please > > >> vote. > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks > > >> > > > > > > > John > > > > >> > > > > > -- > > >> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > >> Google > > >> > > Groups > > >> > > > > > "Castle Project Users" group. > > >> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > >> > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > > > > > [email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > <castle-project-users%[email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > > > > >> <castle-project-users%[email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > <castle-project-users%[email protected]<castle-project-users%[email protected]> > > > > >> ><castle-project-users%2Bun > > >> > > [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-users?hl=en. > > > > >> > > > > -- > > >> > > > > Ken Egozi. > > > > >>http://www.kenegozi.com/bloghttp://www.delver.comhttp://www.musicglue. > .. > > >> כנס > > >> > > הקהילתי הראשון למפתחי דוטנט - 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