Hi again...just talked to John...no email and from the sounds of it don't hold your breath for him to get it.
Lesley in Victoria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley C. Quin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:25 am Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Rudders > MessageHi, John Booth's shop is just down the road from where I > live in Victoria, BC. I don't know if he has email yet or > not.....yes internet challenged is a good way to describe John. > I'll give him a call today to see if he has come into the 21st > century yet but in the mean time...... > Booth Enterprise > 781 Fairview Rd > Victoria BC V9A 5V2 > 250-386-9622 > > Lesley Quin > C27 SeaQuin IV > Victoria, BC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sneddon, Keith > To: '[email protected]' > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:57 AM > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders > > > Booth is a little internet challenged. The phone number is in the > pro resources page on the Class Assoc. website. Idasailor would > probably make a one-off (hopefully, they still have tooling), but > the price would probably be up there. > > > > Keith Sneddon > > Chief Engineer > > Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate > > EDO Defense Systems > > 1500 New Horizons Blvd. > > North Amityville, NY 11701 > > Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244 > > Cell: 516-313-7420 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > ---------- > > From: Jones, Lance B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders > > > > I didn't see a website for the Booth rudders nor does it appear > that Ida Sailor makes them anymore. I had an Ida Sailor on my C-22 > and it was awesome! > > > > > > Lance B. Jones _/) > Internet Account Representative > YELLOWPAGES.COM from BellSouth > BellSouth Advertising and Publishing Corporation > 2247 Northlake Parkway-8th Floor > Tucker, Georgia 30084-4005 > Phone: (678) 406-2531 Toll Free: (866) 213-2617 > Fax: (770) 908-6213 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Visit our website @ www.yellowpages.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:catalina27- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:42 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders > > Thanks, Judy. As usual, you're answer is well thought out and > comprehensive, and you have done all your research. Bijou looks > great! I think I may have a little more weather helm than you > because of my standard rig, so no bowsprit to pull the sail center > of effort forward. That, plus the fact that we don't sail as flat > as we might. My wife gets nervous when I have the kids sit out. > Either the Booth or the Idasailor would pull the wet center of > effort forward a little, which should balance the helm some. Below > the waterline, my setup is the same as yours (Atomic 4, Indigo > prop). I motor out of a tight slip, so better manners under power > would be a plus. > > > > Keith Sneddon > > Chief Engineer > > Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate > > EDO Defense Systems > > 1500 New Horizons Blvd. > > North Amityville, NY 11701 > > Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244 > > Cell: 516-313-7420 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > -------- > > From: Judith Blumhorst, DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders > > > > I replaced the OEM rudder with a Booth rudder last year. I'd > bet the boat acttually does perform better upwind, but I really > have no way of knowing whether it actually does better upwind than > the OEM rudder or not. > > > > As for weather helm (more accurately called "tiller torque or > tug,"), my boat had a well balanced helm under sail even with the > old OEM rudder. I had no complaints. The rig is well tuned, > we'vve got nice sails, we reef early and often, and we sail her > pretty flat. > > > > I can tell you that the boat DEFINTELY has better manners under > INBOARD power with the new rudder than the old one. With the OEM > rudder, the boat used to yaw violently to port under power in > forward. It was hard for me to control it -- I'm a petite woman. > Now I can control the tiller with ease . > > > > Balance area is generally a good thing under sail, decreasing > tug & load on the tiller; but it likely was part of my problem > powering in forward. Balance is not your friend when the prop is > pushing water at the rudder. The Booth rudder has less "balance > area" than the OEM rudder, but it has plenty enough to reduce > tiller tug under sail. > > > > BTW, I asked Jim Antrim, N.A., for his advice about which > rudder would solve my problem when motoring (Booth vs IdaSailor), > and he recommended the Booth rudder for my inboard powered, tiller > steered boat. He said either rudder would give me better > lift/drag under sail and easier backing than the OEM rudder > > > > I've got pics of the Booth, Ida Sailor and OEM rudders at > http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/catalina-27- rudders.htm. I > have a lot more pics of the Booth rudder, but I haven't put them > online yet. > > Fair winds, Judy B > 1977 Catalina-27 Tall Rig, hull #3459,BijouSailing San > Francisco Bay Area > Visit Bijou's website at > <http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/ catalinahomepage.htm> > > Commodore Emeritus, Potter Yachters of Northern California > 1985 West Wight Potter 19 #266, Redwing > Danville/SF Bay, CA > Potter Yachters website at <http://potter-yachters.org/> > Potter Forum on the TrailerSailor website. > http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/potter/index.cgi Judy B's > Potter Website at <http://www.blumhorst.com/potterpages> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:catalina27- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:00 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders > > Does anybody have the Booth, Idasailor, or Foss rudders on > their boat? Do they live up to their claims (better upwind > performance, less weather helm, etc.). > > > > Keith Sneddon > > Chief Engineer > > Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate > > EDO Defense Systems > > 1500 New Horizons Blvd. > > North Amityville, NY 11701 > > Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244 > > Cell: 516-313-7420 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > -------- > > From: Sneddon, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:50 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: catalina27-talk: > > > > Hello, > > Anybody got any advice on rudders? Idasailor > appears to have stopped production for C27. I have talked to Booth > and Foss. Any other options? > > > > Keith Sneddon > > Chief Engineer > > Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate > > EDO Defense Systems > > 1500 New Horizons Blvd. > > North Amityville, NY 11701 > > Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244 > > Cell: 516-313-7420 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ***** > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, > proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, > retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any > action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities > other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material > from all computers. GA622 >
