Hi again...just talked to John...no email and from the sounds of it
don't hold your breath for him to get it.
Lesley in Victoria
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From: "Lesley C. Quin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:25 am
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Rudders
MessageHi, John Booth's shop is just down the road from where I
live in Victoria, BC. I don't know if he has email yet or
not.....yes internet challenged is a good way to describe John.
I'll give him a call today to see if he has come into the 21st
century yet but in the mean time......
Booth Enterprise
781 Fairview Rd
Victoria BC V9A 5V2
250-386-9622
Lesley Quin
C27 SeaQuin IV
Victoria, BC
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From: Sneddon, Keith
To: '[email protected]'
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:57 AM
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders
Booth is a little internet challenged. The phone number is in the
pro resources page on the Class Assoc. website. Idasailor would
probably make a one-off (hopefully, they still have tooling), but
the price would probably be up there.
Keith Sneddon
Chief Engineer
Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate
EDO Defense Systems
1500 New Horizons Blvd.
North Amityville, NY 11701
Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244
Cell: 516-313-7420
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From: Jones, Lance B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders
I didn't see a website for the Booth rudders nor does it appear
that Ida Sailor makes them anymore. I had an Ida Sailor on my
C-22
and it was awesome!
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From: [email protected] [mailto:catalina27-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:42 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders
Thanks, Judy. As usual, you're answer is well thought out and
comprehensive, and you have done all your research. Bijou looks
great! I think I may have a little more weather helm than you
because of my standard rig, so no bowsprit to pull the sail center
of effort forward. That, plus the fact that we don't sail as flat
as we might. My wife gets nervous when I have the kids sit out.
Either the Booth or the Idasailor would pull the wet center of
effort forward a little, which should balance the helm some.
Below
the waterline, my setup is the same as yours (Atomic 4, Indigo
prop). I motor out of a tight slip, so better manners under power
would be a plus.
Keith Sneddon
Chief Engineer
Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate
EDO Defense Systems
1500 New Horizons Blvd.
North Amityville, NY 11701
Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244
Cell: 516-313-7420
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From: Judith Blumhorst, DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders
I replaced the OEM rudder with a Booth rudder last year. I'd
bet the boat acttually does perform better upwind, but I really
have no way of knowing whether it actually does better upwind
than
the OEM rudder or not.
As for weather helm (more accurately called "tiller torque or
tug,"), my boat had a well balanced helm under sail even with the
old OEM rudder. I had no complaints. The rig is well tuned,
we'vve got nice sails, we reef early and often, and we sail her
pretty flat.
I can tell you that the boat DEFINTELY has better manners
under
INBOARD power with the new rudder than the old one. With the
OEM
rudder, the boat used to yaw violently to port under power in
forward. It was hard for me to control it -- I'm a petite woman.
Now I can control the tiller with ease .
Balance area is generally a good thing under sail, decreasing
tug & load on the tiller; but it likely was part of my problem
powering in forward. Balance is not your friend when the prop is
pushing water at the rudder. The Booth rudder has less
"balance
area" than the OEM rudder, but it has plenty enough to reduce
tiller tug under sail.
BTW, I asked Jim Antrim, N.A., for his advice about which
rudder would solve my problem when motoring (Booth vs
IdaSailor),
and he recommended the Booth rudder for my inboard powered,
tiller
steered boat. He said either rudder would give me better
lift/drag under sail and easier backing than the OEM rudder
I've got pics of the Booth, Ida Sailor and OEM rudders at
http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/catalina-27-
rudders.htm. I
have a lot more pics of the Booth rudder, but I haven't put them
online yet.
Fair winds, Judy B
1977 Catalina-27 Tall Rig, hull #3459,BijouSailing San
Francisco Bay Area
Visit Bijou's website at
<http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/
catalinahomepage.htm>
Commodore Emeritus, Potter Yachters of Northern California
1985 West Wight Potter 19 #266, Redwing
Danville/SF Bay, CA
Potter Yachters website at <http://potter-yachters.org/>
Potter Forum on the TrailerSailor website.
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/potter/index.cgi Judy B's
Potter Website at <http://www.blumhorst.com/potterpages>
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:catalina27-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sneddon, Keith
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:00 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Rudders
Does anybody have the Booth, Idasailor, or Foss rudders on
their boat? Do they live up to their claims (better upwind
performance, less weather helm, etc.).
Keith Sneddon
Chief Engineer
Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate
EDO Defense Systems
1500 New Horizons Blvd.
North Amityville, NY 11701
Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244
Cell: 516-313-7420
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From: Sneddon, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:50 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: catalina27-talk:
Hello,
Anybody got any advice on rudders? Idasailor
appears to have stopped production for C27. I have talked to
Booth
and Foss. Any other options?
Keith Sneddon
Chief Engineer
Mechanized Systems and Structures Directorate
EDO Defense Systems
1500 New Horizons Blvd.
North Amityville, NY 11701
Ph: 631-630-4092 Fax: 631-630-4244
Cell: 516-313-7420
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