HI Dave when you get a chance I would like to hear about your hybird drive I am 
always intrested in way to cut polution and or fuel use.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: catalina27-talk: Model 15/5411 
Universal Engine RepairDate: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:21:42 -0600






John,
 
First of all, as an engineer/mechanic/metallurgist/blacksmith I can offer a 
very vehement opinion that piston rings will not fail due to an engine 
ingesting exhaust smoke and/or carbon—unless you managed to get them running 
hot enough to accept extra carbon into their crystalline lattice structure and 
then somehow got them cold quickly enough to trap that carbon (quenched ‘em) 
thereby making them brittle.  But, hey, they’re already brittle to start 
with—they’re about as hard as engineering can make them.  
 
However—if you DID have ring failure (whatever the reason—there are lots of 
other, legitimate reasons), then you’d smell exhaust fumes coming from the 
breather tube due to combustion blowby.  So in that sense, he’s right.  If your 
rings have failed, you’ll have other symptoms, like serious loss of power, 
contaminated oil pretty soon, and so forth.  Easiest check?  Take a compression 
tester to your boat and check each of the cylinders.  If you’ve blown your 
rings, you’ll see readings well below 50 psi.  
 
Carbon buildup is commonly seen at overhauls and it’s routinely dealt with.  
But an overhaul, no matter how much or little carbon you’ve got, is expensive.  
If your rings are shot, you need one—or you need another engine.  Sorry.  But 
if your compression readings are good, I’d look other places  starting with the 
exhaust manifold and working out to the transom.
 
If you need another engine, I’m right on the verge of pulling a beautifully 
running and immaculately maintained Atomic 4 in order to install my 
experimental hybrid drive system <grin>.  I hate to remove a perfectly good 
engine, but I can’t experiment with it in there…  and I could use some cash to 
pay for the rest of my gear.
 
David Shaddock
Shivering in Rockford, IL
 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: catalina27-talk: Model 15/5411 Universal Engine Repair
 


List

 

Need advice.

 

My Model 15/5411 Universal is ailing.  Several months ago had the exhaust 
manifold replaced after replacing several freeze plugs (water leak).  Soon 
thereafter the exhaust pipe riser developed a hole and as a result the engine 
compartment was flooded with exhaust smoke/carbon.   The exhaust pipe riser was 
replaced.  Soon thereafter I started smelling exhaust fumes.  Bottom line.  
Mechanic has diagnosed the problem as piston ring failure caused by the engine 
ingesting the carbon exhaust/carbon.  Due to the ring failure I have "blow by", 
 that is, exhaust gases are blown into the crank case and exit the engine via 
the breather tube, which causes exhaust gases in the cabin. the smell that I 
have noticed.

 

I am faced with an engine overhaul and some big time boat units.   Rings need 
to be replaced and any other problems caused by the carbon build-up needs to be 
corrected, i.e. cylinder walls, bearings, etc.

 

Does anyone have any experience with this problem?   

 

Any observations and/or suggestions would be appreciated.  

 

John Jennings





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