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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sailor Chef 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Tiller pilot


  I have a Raymarine unit that I believe to be the same as the Autohelm. I have 
only used mine for motoring and it works fine. On an Elite 32 (French built, 
similar to a Beneteau) I used to have, I had a Novice unit that was identical 
to the above units in appearance and it worked great. Only problem was on the 
wind in a breeze. It would "loose" it's way in a puff and "auto-tack" then try 
to recover. Very un settling! But, in the paraphrased words of one of my 
heroes..."Man's got to know his limitations"
  Mark, Gratis (6115) 
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: David Shaddock 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:22 PM
    Subject: RE: catalina27-talk: Tiller pilot


    Ivan, apologies for the off-topic discussions-but it's off-season and it's 
all sailing, so it's interesting to me.

     

    To address your question, however: my C27 came equipped with an AutoHelm 
ST1000-older unit but the PO told me that he absolutely swore by it, and it was 
plenty strong for anything he faced in Lake Erie.  He said it drove the boat 
better than he ever could.  When I was re-wiring the boat after a complete 
teardown, I realized he  (or the PPO-more likely, because the PO was an 
engineer) had hooked up the tiller with (gasp) telephone cord-solid 24AWG 
telephone cord-which was corroded but somehow still providing enough juice to 
run his AutoHelm.  That tells me that the tiller pilots are forgiving, and 
also, because they have a really long lever arm on which to operate, don't need 
much in the way of current.  Please do NOT wire yours with just phone cord.  
But they're pretty darn straightforward and reasonably priced to boot.  I think 
the ST2000 is larger than you'd need, but would still work fine.

     

    I have read of a number of people using a tiller pilot to drive their wind 
vane when they have a wheel system.  It seems they do this because the wind 
vane gives them a little more leverage and the tiller pilots are cheap and 
simple compared to setting up an autopilot capable of driving the wheel and its 
direct linkage (worm gear especially, because of its friction).  So you could 
use your tiller pilot to drive a wind vane, but I'm not sure how you'd use a 
wind vane to drive (or control) the tiller pilot the way you could use wind 
info to drive a more sophisticated autopilot.  Of course, I'm picturing the 
unit that came on my boat, which had a compass dial and sensing unit mounted 
atop it and just followed a bearing.  I sold it to another boat owner and have 
installed a hydraulic unit controlled by an ST7000 in my C27.  But there are 
plenty of others out there, especially on eBay.

     

    Dave Shaddock 

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of ivan
    Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:02 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: catalina27-talk: Tiller pilot

     

    I see a lot of talk about these Wylies on here and it makes for a 
fascinating read, but I'm wondering if I'm on the wrong list.  I assume this 
still a topic we can discuss c27's.  So I'll throw this out there one more 
time... I am researching tiller pilots and I wanted to get some feed back from 
anyone that is using a tiller pilot.  What unit are you using?  How do you like 
the performance?  How's the power consumption?  How's the reliability?  How's 
effective is it going downwind? Do you use a wind vane that is connected to the 
unit?  C'mon share the good stuff!!  
    Got a used one you want to get rid of?

    So far I'm liking the simrad TP22 and the Raymarine autohelm ST2000. Are 
these units overkill for C27?

    -Ivan
    Chesapeake City, MD
    (Soon to be Inner Harbor in May!!)

    tim ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    I see Rage winning the Transpac in 93, first in class, second in fleet.
    But I could be wrong.

    Odd years TP, even years the PC, right?

    tf



    Ralph E. Ahseln wrote:
    > Sorry, 
    > I should point out that "Rage" won the PACIFIC CUP not the TRANSPAC..
    >
    > And ...... It's for sale.... LOL
    >
    >
    > Ralph Ahseln
    >
    >
    >

     

      


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